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From: Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@redhat.com>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>, "H . Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	the arch/x86 maintainers <x86@kernel.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Brian Gerst <brgerst@gmail.com>,
	Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>,
	Byungchul Park <byungchul.park@lge.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/19] x86/dumpstack: rewrite x86 stack dump code
Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2016 07:53:50 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160723125350.jtx7b4b6tpkztjx6@treble> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CA+55aFwGu0e9Cbpr3jE=bpePBenD204qFhFkci=E7fJ_PD=PaQ@mail.gmail.com>

On Sat, Jul 23, 2016 at 02:39:52PM +0900, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> On Sat, Jul 23, 2016 at 2:35 PM, Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@redhat.com> wrote:
> >
> > While doing the scanning and printing, it does call the frame pointer
> > unwinder in parallel, but like before, that's *only* used to determine
> > whether a found address should be printed without a question mark.  If
> > the unwinder goes off the rails, the scanning and printing of text
> > addresses goes on, undisturbed.
> >
> > The frame pointer unwinder code itself is quite careful not to
> > dereference anything it shouldn't (though of course I welcome any review
> > comments that find otherwise).
> 
> So this was the bug the last time around we did unwinders - the code
> would dereference the unwind tables, and the tables would be
> corrupted. End result: recursive oops.
> 
> And they were corrupted not even because of memory corruption, but
> simply because they contained incorrect data, due to compiler bugs and
> other issues.
> 
> I have really bad memories from that time. Several years after the
> fact. It took months to finally revert the crap, because the author
> continued to insist that "this was the last bug" for several passes
> through that thing.
> 
> As they say, "Once burned, twice shy". But in this case, it's more
> like "Four times burned, sixteen times as shy".

But that was DWARF, right?  This is still just simple frame pointers.

Don't think of it as a new unwinder.  Think of it instead as a "gentle
reshuffling of the existing code to vastly improve readability and
maintenance."

Yes, I would like to eventually propose a DWARF unwinder, which
hopefully learns from the mistakes of previous attempts.  But either
way, I think this patch set stands on its own as a big improvement.

-- 
Josh

      reply	other threads:[~2016-07-23 12:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 91+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-07-21 21:21 Josh Poimboeuf
2016-07-21 21:21 ` [PATCH 01/19] x86/dumpstack: remove show_trace() Josh Poimboeuf
2016-07-21 21:49   ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-07-21 21:21 ` [PATCH 02/19] x86/dumpstack: add get_stack_pointer() and get_frame_pointer() Josh Poimboeuf
2016-07-21 21:53   ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-07-21 21:21 ` [PATCH 03/19] x86/dumpstack: remove unnecessary stack pointer arguments Josh Poimboeuf
2016-07-21 21:56   ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-07-22  1:41     ` Josh Poimboeuf
2016-07-22  2:29       ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-07-22  3:08       ` Brian Gerst
2016-07-21 21:21 ` [PATCH 04/19] x86/dumpstack: make printk_stack_address() more generally useful Josh Poimboeuf
2016-07-21 21:21 ` [PATCH 05/19] x86/dumpstack: fix function graph tracing stack dump reliability issues Josh Poimboeuf
2016-07-29 22:55   ` Steven Rostedt
2016-07-30  0:50     ` Josh Poimboeuf
2016-07-30  2:20       ` Steven Rostedt
2016-07-30 13:51         ` Josh Poimboeuf
2016-08-01 14:28           ` Steven Rostedt
2016-08-01 15:36             ` Josh Poimboeuf
2016-08-02 21:00               ` Josh Poimboeuf
2016-08-02 21:16                 ` Steven Rostedt
2016-08-02 22:13                   ` Josh Poimboeuf
2016-08-02 23:16                     ` Steven Rostedt
2016-08-03  1:56                       ` Josh Poimboeuf
2016-08-03  2:30                         ` Steven Rostedt
2016-08-03  2:50                           ` Josh Poimboeuf
2016-08-03  2:59                             ` Steven Rostedt
2016-08-03  3:12                               ` Josh Poimboeuf
2016-08-03  3:18                                 ` Steven Rostedt
2016-08-03  3:21                                   ` Steven Rostedt
2016-08-03  3:31                                     ` Josh Poimboeuf
2016-08-03  3:45                                       ` Steven Rostedt
2016-08-03 14:13                                         ` Josh Poimboeuf
2016-08-03  3:30                                   ` Josh Poimboeuf
2016-08-01 15:59     ` Josh Poimboeuf
2016-08-01 16:05       ` Steven Rostedt
2016-08-01 16:19         ` Josh Poimboeuf
2016-08-01 16:24     ` Josh Poimboeuf
2016-08-01 16:56       ` Steven Rostedt
2016-07-21 21:21 ` [PATCH 06/19] x86/dumpstack: remove extra brackets around "EOE" Josh Poimboeuf
2016-07-21 21:21 ` [PATCH 07/19] x86/dumpstack: add IRQ_USABLE_STACK_SIZE define Josh Poimboeuf
2016-07-21 22:01   ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-07-22  1:48     ` Josh Poimboeuf
2016-07-22  8:24       ` Ingo Molnar
2016-07-21 21:21 ` [PATCH 08/19] x86/dumpstack: don't disable preemption in show_stack_log_lvl() and dump_trace() Josh Poimboeuf
2016-07-21 21:21 ` [PATCH 09/19] x86/dumpstack: simplify in_exception_stack() Josh Poimboeuf
2016-07-21 22:05   ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-07-21 21:21 ` [PATCH 10/19] x86/dumpstack: add get_stack_info() interface Josh Poimboeuf
2016-07-22 23:26   ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-07-22 23:52     ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-07-23 13:09       ` Josh Poimboeuf
2016-07-22 23:54     ` Josh Poimboeuf
2016-07-23  0:15       ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-07-23 14:04         ` Josh Poimboeuf
2016-07-26  0:09           ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-07-26 16:26             ` Josh Poimboeuf
2016-07-26 17:51               ` Steven Rostedt
2016-07-26 18:56                 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2016-07-26 20:59               ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-07-26 22:24                 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2016-07-26 22:31                   ` Steven Rostedt
2016-07-26 22:37                   ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-07-26 16:47             ` Josh Poimboeuf
2016-07-26 17:49               ` Brian Gerst
2016-07-26 18:59                 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2016-07-21 21:21 ` [PATCH 11/19] x86/dumptrace: add new unwind interface and implementations Josh Poimboeuf
2016-07-21 21:21 ` [PATCH 12/19] perf/x86: convert perf_callchain_kernel() to the new unwinder Josh Poimboeuf
2016-07-21 21:21 ` [PATCH 13/19] x86/stacktrace: convert save_stack_trace_*() " Josh Poimboeuf
2016-07-21 21:21 ` [PATCH 14/19] oprofile/x86: convert x86_backtrace() " Josh Poimboeuf
2016-07-21 21:21 ` [PATCH 15/19] x86/dumpstack: convert show_trace_log_lvl() " Josh Poimboeuf
2016-07-21 21:49   ` Byungchul Park
2016-07-22  1:38     ` Josh Poimboeuf
2016-07-21 21:21 ` [PATCH 16/19] x86/dumpstack: remove dump_trace() Josh Poimboeuf
2016-07-21 21:21 ` [PATCH 17/19] x86/entry/dumpstack: encode pt_regs pointer in frame pointer Josh Poimboeuf
2016-07-21 22:27   ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-07-21 21:21 ` [PATCH 18/19] x86/dumpstack: print stack identifier on its own line Josh Poimboeuf
2016-07-21 21:21 ` [PATCH 19/19] x86/dumpstack: print any pt_regs found on the stack Josh Poimboeuf
2016-07-21 22:32   ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-07-22  3:30     ` Josh Poimboeuf
2016-07-22  5:13       ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-07-22 15:57         ` Josh Poimboeuf
2016-07-22 21:46           ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-07-22 22:20             ` Josh Poimboeuf
2016-07-22 23:18               ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-07-22 23:30                 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2016-07-22 23:39                   ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-07-23  0:00                     ` Josh Poimboeuf
2016-07-23  0:22 ` [PATCH 00/19] x86/dumpstack: rewrite x86 stack dump code Linus Torvalds
2016-07-23  0:31   ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-07-23  5:35     ` Josh Poimboeuf
2016-07-23  5:39       ` Linus Torvalds
2016-07-23 12:53         ` Josh Poimboeuf [this message]

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