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From: Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>
To: Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@redhat.com>
Cc: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>, "H . Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	X86 ML <x86@kernel.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Brian Gerst <brgerst@gmail.com>,
	Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>,
	Byungchul Park <byungchul.park@lge.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 10/19] x86/dumpstack: add get_stack_info() interface
Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2016 16:52:10 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CALCETrVfse14v95S+yFqaF_35wm-yqQ0R_BiO2HDYPi3YGiCWA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CALCETrWLKgYB9KaSZgY3Hz9uVvYNrFc5Yw8moz=CdzJu4nN06g@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, Jul 22, 2016 at 4:26 PM, Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net> wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 21, 2016 at 2:21 PM, Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@redhat.com> wrote:
>> valid_stack_ptr() is buggy: it assumes that all stacks are of size
>> THREAD_SIZE, which is not true for exception stacks.  So the
>> walk_stack() callbacks will need to know the location of the beginning
>> of the stack as well as the end.
>>
>> Another issue is that in general the various features of a stack (type,
>> size, next stack pointer, description string) are scattered around in
>> various places throughout the stack dump code.
>
> I finally figured out what visit_info is.  But would it make more
> sense to track it in the unwind state so that the unwinder can
> directly make sure it doesn't start looping?
>

I just realized that it *is* in the unwind state.  But maybe this code
in update_stack_state:

    sp = info->next;
    if (!sp).
        goto unknown;

    if (get_stack_info(sp, state->task, info, &state->stack_mask))
        goto unknown;

    if (!on_stack(info, addr, len))
        goto unknown;

should do something like:

if (get_stack_info(addr, ...))
  goto unknown.

sp = info->end;

instead.  Alternatively, maybe it would make sense to keep sp as is
(have update_stack_state return bool instead of returning a pointer)
so that a frame that switches stacks still shows the actual sp at the
time that the frame called whatever the it called.

I'm really quite confused by what state->sp means in your current
code.  In the non-stack-switching case (everything is on the thread
stack), it appears to always match state->bp.  Am I missing something?
 If I'm understanding this correctly, when you're pointing at a call
frame, state->bp is that frame's base address (the top of the stack
frame), unwind_get_return_address() returns the address to which that
frame would return, and, in the future, unwind_get_gpr(UNWIND_DI) or
whatever it ends up looking like will return RDI at the time that the
frame called whatever function it called, if known.  By that logic,
shouldn't state->sp be sp on entry to the call instruction?  (Or could
sp just be removed?  Does it do anything?)

I guess the reason I'm still not 100% comfortable with the idea that
pt_regs frames don't exist a real frames is that I keep waffling as to
how I should think about the regs associated with a frame in the
future DWARF world.  I think I imagine them being the regs at the time
that the frame did it's call to the next frame, which, by an
admittedly weak analogy, means that the pt_regs state would be the
regs at the time that the exception or interrupt happened.  That
offers a third silly option for dealing with the annoying '?': emit
two frames for a pt_regs, but have the frame in the entry code show
NULL for its return address because it's not a normal return.

> And please remove test_and_set_bit() -- it's pointlessly slow.
>
>> +static bool in_hardirq_stack(unsigned long *stack, struct stack_info *info,
>> +                            unsigned long *visit_mask)
>> +{
>> +       unsigned long *begin = (unsigned long *)this_cpu_read(hardirq_stack);
>> +       unsigned long *end   = begin + (THREAD_SIZE / sizeof(long));
>> +
>> +       if (stack < begin || stack >= end)
>> +               return false;
>> +
>> +       if (visit_mask && test_and_set_bit(STACK_TYPE_IRQ, visit_mask))
>> +               return false;
>> +
>> +       info->type      = STACK_TYPE_IRQ;
>> +       info->begin     = begin;
>> +       info->end       = end;
>> +       info->next      = (unsigned long *)*begin;
>
> This works, but it's a bit magic.  I don't suppose we could get rid of
> this ->next thing entirely and teach show_stack_log_lvl(), etc. to
> move from stack to stack by querying the stack type of whatever the
> frame base address is if the frame base address ends up being out of
> bounds for the current stack?  Or maybe the unwinder could even do
> this by itself.
>
>> +static bool in_exception_stack(unsigned long *s, struct stack_info *info,
>> +                              unsigned long *visit_mask)
>>  {
>>         unsigned long stack = (unsigned long)s;
>>         unsigned long begin, end;
>> @@ -44,55 +63,62 @@ static unsigned long *in_exception_stack(unsigned long *s, char **name,
>>                 if (stack < begin || stack >= end)
>>                         continue;
>>
>> -               if (test_and_set_bit(k, visit_mask))
>> +               if (visit_mask &&
>> +                   test_and_set_bit(STACK_TYPE_EXCEPTION + k, visit_mask))
>>                         return false;
>>
>> -               *name = exception_stack_names[k];
>> -               return (unsigned long *)end;
>> +               info->type      = STACK_TYPE_EXCEPTION + k;
>> +               info->begin     = (unsigned long *)begin;
>> +               info->end       = (unsigned long *)end;
>> +               info->next      = (unsigned long *)info->end[-2];
>
> This is so magical that I don't immediately see why it's correct.
> Presumably it's because the thing two slots down from the top of the
> stack is regs->sp?  If so, that needs a comment.
>
> But again, couldn't we use the fact that we now know how to decode
> pt_regs to avoid needing this?  I can imagine it being useful as a
> fallback in the event that the unwinder fails, but this is just a
> fallback.  Also, NMI is weird and I'm wondering whether this works at
> all when trying to unwind from a looped NMI.
>
> Fixing this up could be a followup after this series is in, I think --
> you're preserving existing behavior AFAICS.  I just don't particularly
> like the existing behavior.
>
> FWIW, I think this code needs to be explicitly tested for the 32-bit
> double fault case.  It's highly magical.



-- 
Andy Lutomirski
AMA Capital Management, LLC

  reply	other threads:[~2016-07-22 23:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 91+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-07-21 21:21 [PATCH 00/19] x86/dumpstack: rewrite x86 stack dump code Josh Poimboeuf
2016-07-21 21:21 ` [PATCH 01/19] x86/dumpstack: remove show_trace() Josh Poimboeuf
2016-07-21 21:49   ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-07-21 21:21 ` [PATCH 02/19] x86/dumpstack: add get_stack_pointer() and get_frame_pointer() Josh Poimboeuf
2016-07-21 21:53   ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-07-21 21:21 ` [PATCH 03/19] x86/dumpstack: remove unnecessary stack pointer arguments Josh Poimboeuf
2016-07-21 21:56   ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-07-22  1:41     ` Josh Poimboeuf
2016-07-22  2:29       ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-07-22  3:08       ` Brian Gerst
2016-07-21 21:21 ` [PATCH 04/19] x86/dumpstack: make printk_stack_address() more generally useful Josh Poimboeuf
2016-07-21 21:21 ` [PATCH 05/19] x86/dumpstack: fix function graph tracing stack dump reliability issues Josh Poimboeuf
2016-07-29 22:55   ` Steven Rostedt
2016-07-30  0:50     ` Josh Poimboeuf
2016-07-30  2:20       ` Steven Rostedt
2016-07-30 13:51         ` Josh Poimboeuf
2016-08-01 14:28           ` Steven Rostedt
2016-08-01 15:36             ` Josh Poimboeuf
2016-08-02 21:00               ` Josh Poimboeuf
2016-08-02 21:16                 ` Steven Rostedt
2016-08-02 22:13                   ` Josh Poimboeuf
2016-08-02 23:16                     ` Steven Rostedt
2016-08-03  1:56                       ` Josh Poimboeuf
2016-08-03  2:30                         ` Steven Rostedt
2016-08-03  2:50                           ` Josh Poimboeuf
2016-08-03  2:59                             ` Steven Rostedt
2016-08-03  3:12                               ` Josh Poimboeuf
2016-08-03  3:18                                 ` Steven Rostedt
2016-08-03  3:21                                   ` Steven Rostedt
2016-08-03  3:31                                     ` Josh Poimboeuf
2016-08-03  3:45                                       ` Steven Rostedt
2016-08-03 14:13                                         ` Josh Poimboeuf
2016-08-03  3:30                                   ` Josh Poimboeuf
2016-08-01 15:59     ` Josh Poimboeuf
2016-08-01 16:05       ` Steven Rostedt
2016-08-01 16:19         ` Josh Poimboeuf
2016-08-01 16:24     ` Josh Poimboeuf
2016-08-01 16:56       ` Steven Rostedt
2016-07-21 21:21 ` [PATCH 06/19] x86/dumpstack: remove extra brackets around "EOE" Josh Poimboeuf
2016-07-21 21:21 ` [PATCH 07/19] x86/dumpstack: add IRQ_USABLE_STACK_SIZE define Josh Poimboeuf
2016-07-21 22:01   ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-07-22  1:48     ` Josh Poimboeuf
2016-07-22  8:24       ` Ingo Molnar
2016-07-21 21:21 ` [PATCH 08/19] x86/dumpstack: don't disable preemption in show_stack_log_lvl() and dump_trace() Josh Poimboeuf
2016-07-21 21:21 ` [PATCH 09/19] x86/dumpstack: simplify in_exception_stack() Josh Poimboeuf
2016-07-21 22:05   ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-07-21 21:21 ` [PATCH 10/19] x86/dumpstack: add get_stack_info() interface Josh Poimboeuf
2016-07-22 23:26   ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-07-22 23:52     ` Andy Lutomirski [this message]
2016-07-23 13:09       ` Josh Poimboeuf
2016-07-22 23:54     ` Josh Poimboeuf
2016-07-23  0:15       ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-07-23 14:04         ` Josh Poimboeuf
2016-07-26  0:09           ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-07-26 16:26             ` Josh Poimboeuf
2016-07-26 17:51               ` Steven Rostedt
2016-07-26 18:56                 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2016-07-26 20:59               ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-07-26 22:24                 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2016-07-26 22:31                   ` Steven Rostedt
2016-07-26 22:37                   ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-07-26 16:47             ` Josh Poimboeuf
2016-07-26 17:49               ` Brian Gerst
2016-07-26 18:59                 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2016-07-21 21:21 ` [PATCH 11/19] x86/dumptrace: add new unwind interface and implementations Josh Poimboeuf
2016-07-21 21:21 ` [PATCH 12/19] perf/x86: convert perf_callchain_kernel() to the new unwinder Josh Poimboeuf
2016-07-21 21:21 ` [PATCH 13/19] x86/stacktrace: convert save_stack_trace_*() " Josh Poimboeuf
2016-07-21 21:21 ` [PATCH 14/19] oprofile/x86: convert x86_backtrace() " Josh Poimboeuf
2016-07-21 21:21 ` [PATCH 15/19] x86/dumpstack: convert show_trace_log_lvl() " Josh Poimboeuf
2016-07-21 21:49   ` Byungchul Park
2016-07-22  1:38     ` Josh Poimboeuf
2016-07-21 21:21 ` [PATCH 16/19] x86/dumpstack: remove dump_trace() Josh Poimboeuf
2016-07-21 21:21 ` [PATCH 17/19] x86/entry/dumpstack: encode pt_regs pointer in frame pointer Josh Poimboeuf
2016-07-21 22:27   ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-07-21 21:21 ` [PATCH 18/19] x86/dumpstack: print stack identifier on its own line Josh Poimboeuf
2016-07-21 21:21 ` [PATCH 19/19] x86/dumpstack: print any pt_regs found on the stack Josh Poimboeuf
2016-07-21 22:32   ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-07-22  3:30     ` Josh Poimboeuf
2016-07-22  5:13       ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-07-22 15:57         ` Josh Poimboeuf
2016-07-22 21:46           ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-07-22 22:20             ` Josh Poimboeuf
2016-07-22 23:18               ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-07-22 23:30                 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2016-07-22 23:39                   ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-07-23  0:00                     ` Josh Poimboeuf
2016-07-23  0:22 ` [PATCH 00/19] x86/dumpstack: rewrite x86 stack dump code Linus Torvalds
2016-07-23  0:31   ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-07-23  5:35     ` Josh Poimboeuf
2016-07-23  5:39       ` Linus Torvalds
2016-07-23 12:53         ` Josh Poimboeuf

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