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From: Andrew Vagin <avagin@virtuozzo.com>
To: "Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)" <mtk.manpages@gmail.com>
Cc: "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
	Andrey Vagin <avagin@openvz.org>,
	Serge Hallyn <serge.hallyn@canonical.com>,
	"criu@openvz.org" <criu@openvz.org>,
	Linux API <linux-api@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux Containers <containers@lists.linux-foundation.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@hansenpartnership.com>,
	linux-fsdevel <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Alexander Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/5 RFC] Add an interface to discover relationships between namespaces
Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2016 11:25:24 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160726182524.GA328@outlook.office365.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3390535b-0660-757f-aeba-c03d936b3485@gmail.com>

On Tue, Jul 26, 2016 at 10:03:25AM +0200, Michael Kerrisk (man-pages) wrote:
> On 07/26/2016 04:54 AM, Andrew Vagin wrote:
> > On Mon, Jul 25, 2016 at 09:59:43AM -0500, Eric W. Biederman wrote:
> > > "Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)" <mtk.manpages@gmail.com> writes:
> > 
> > [snip]
> > 
> > > [snip]
> > > > > > So, from my point of view, the important piece that was missing from
> > > > > > your commit message was the note to use readlink("/proc/self/fd/%d")
> > > > > > on the returned FDs. I think that detail needs to be part of the
> > > > > > commit message (and also the man page text). I think it even be
> > > > > > helpful to include the above program as part of the commit message:
> > > > > > it helps people more quickly grasp the API.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Please, please make the standard way to compare these things fstat.
> > > > > That is much less magic than a symlink, and a little more future proof.
> > > > > Possibly even kcmp.
> > 
> > I like the idea to use kcmp to compare namespaces. I am going to add this
> > functionality to kcmp and describe all these in the man page.
> 
> Hi Andrey,
> 
> Can you briefly sketch out the proposed API and how it would be used?
> I'd find it useful to see that even before the implementation.

Sure. If a process wants to compare two namespaces, it needs to get file
descriptors for them (open /proc/PID/ns/XXX, use new ioctl-s, find a
process which has them),
and then it calls kcmp(pid1, pid2, KCMP_NSFD, ns_fd1, ns_fd2)

For example, if we want to compare pid namespaces for 1 and 2 processes:

pid = getpid();
ns_fd1 = open("/proc/1/ns/pid")
ns_fd2 = open("/proc/2/ns/pid")

if (!kcmp(pid, pid, KCMP_NSFD, ns_fd1, ns_fd2))
	printf("Both processes live in the same pid namespace\n");

Thanks,
Andrew
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Michael
> 
> 
> -- 
> Michael Kerrisk
> Linux man-pages maintainer; http://www.kernel.org/doc/man-pages/
> Linux/UNIX System Programming Training: http://man7.org/training/

  reply	other threads:[~2016-07-26 21:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 58+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-07-14 18:20 Andrey Vagin
2016-07-14 18:20 ` [PATCH 1/5] namespaces: move user_ns into ns_common Andrey Vagin
2016-07-15 12:21   ` kbuild test robot
2016-07-14 18:20 ` [PATCH 2/5] kernel: add a helper to get an owning user namespace for a namespace Andrey Vagin
2016-07-14 19:07   ` W. Trevor King
2016-07-14 18:20 ` [PATCH 3/5] nsfs: add ioctl to get an owning user namespace for ns file descriptor Andrey Vagin
2016-07-14 18:48   ` W. Trevor King
2016-07-14 18:20 ` [PATCH 4/5] nsfs: add ioctl to get a parent namespace Andrey Vagin
2016-07-14 18:20 ` [PATCH 5/5] tools/testing: add a test to check nsfs ioctl-s Andrey Vagin
2016-07-14 22:02 ` [PATCH 0/5 RFC] Add an interface to discover relationships between namespaces Andrey Vagin
2016-07-15  2:12   ` [PATCH 1/5] namespaces: move user_ns into ns_common Andrey Vagin
2016-07-15  2:12     ` [PATCH 2/5] kernel: add a helper to get an owning user namespace for a namespace Andrey Vagin
2016-07-24  5:03       ` Eric W. Biederman
2016-07-24  6:37         ` Andrew Vagin
2016-07-24 14:30           ` Eric W. Biederman
2016-07-24 17:05             ` W. Trevor King
2016-07-24 16:54       ` W. Trevor King
2016-07-15  2:12     ` [PATCH 3/5] nsfs: add ioctl to get an owning user namespace for ns file descriptor Andrey Vagin
2016-07-15  2:12     ` [PATCH 4/5] nsfs: add ioctl to get a parent namespace Andrey Vagin
2016-07-24  5:07       ` Eric W. Biederman
2016-07-15  2:12     ` [PATCH 5/5] tools/testing: add a test to check nsfs ioctl-s Andrey Vagin
2016-07-16  8:21     ` [PATCH 1/5] namespaces: move user_ns into ns_common kbuild test robot
2016-07-23 23:07     ` kbuild test robot
2016-07-24  5:00     ` Eric W. Biederman
2016-07-24  5:54       ` Andrew Vagin
2016-07-24  5:10   ` [PATCH 0/5 RFC] Add an interface to discover relationships between namespaces Eric W. Biederman
2016-07-26  2:07     ` Andrew Vagin
2016-07-21 14:41 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2016-07-21 21:06   ` Andrew Vagin
     [not found]     ` <1515f5f2-5a49-fcab-61f4-8b627d3ba3e2@gmail.com>
2016-07-22 18:25       ` Andrey Vagin
2016-07-25 11:47         ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2016-07-25 13:18           ` Eric W. Biederman
2016-07-25 14:46             ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2016-07-25 14:54               ` Serge E. Hallyn
2016-07-25 15:17                 ` Eric W. Biederman
2016-07-25 14:59               ` Eric W. Biederman
2016-07-26  2:54                 ` Andrew Vagin
2016-07-26  8:03                   ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2016-07-26 18:25                     ` Andrew Vagin [this message]
2016-07-26 18:32                       ` W. Trevor King
2016-07-26 19:11                         ` Andrew Vagin
2016-07-26 19:17                       ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2016-07-26 20:39                         ` Andrew Vagin
2016-07-28 10:45                           ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2016-07-28 12:56                             ` Eric W. Biederman
2016-07-28 19:00                               ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2016-07-29 18:05                                 ` Eric W. Biederman
2016-07-31 21:31                                   ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2016-08-01 23:01                                   ` Andrew Vagin
2016-07-26 19:38                   ` Eric W. Biederman
2016-07-23 21:14 ` W. Trevor King
2016-07-23 21:38   ` James Bottomley
2016-07-23 21:58     ` W. Trevor King
2016-07-23 21:56       ` Eric W. Biederman
2016-07-23 22:34         ` W. Trevor King
2016-07-24  4:51           ` Eric W. Biederman
2016-08-01 18:20 ` Alban Crequy
2016-08-01 23:32   ` Andrew Vagin

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