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From: ebiederm@xmission.com (Eric W. Biederman)
To: "Serge E. Hallyn" <serge@hallyn.com>
Cc: "Michael Kerrisk \(man-pages\)" <mtk.manpages@gmail.com>,
	Serge Hallyn <serge.hallyn@canonical.com>,
	Andrew Vagin <avagin@virtuozzo.com>,
	Linux API <linux-api@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux Containers <containers@lists.linux-foundation.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Alexander Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
	"criu\@openvz.org" <criu@openvz.org>,
	linux-fsdevel <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
	James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@hansenpartnership.com>,
	Andrey Vagin <avagin@openvz.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/5 RFC] Add an interface to discover relationships between namespaces
Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2016 10:17:15 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87y44pd9xg.fsf@x220.int.ebiederm.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160725145445.GA19879@mail.hallyn.com> (Serge E. Hallyn's message of "Mon, 25 Jul 2016 09:54:45 -0500")

"Serge E. Hallyn" <serge@hallyn.com> writes:

> Quoting Michael Kerrisk (man-pages) (mtk.manpages@gmail.com):
>> Hi Eric,
>> 
>> On 07/25/2016 03:18 PM, Eric W. Biederman wrote:
>> >"Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)" <mtk.manpages@gmail.com> writes:
>> >
>> >>Hi Andrey,
>> >>
>> >>On 07/22/2016 08:25 PM, Andrey Vagin wrote:
>> >>Perhaps add "and the caller does not have CAP_SYS_ADMIN" in the initial
>> >>user namespace"?
>> >
>> >Having looked at that bit of code I don't think capabilities really
>> >have a role to play.
>> 
>> Yes, I caught up with that now. I await to see how this plays out
>> in the next patch version.
>
> Thanks - that had caught my eye but I hadn't had time to look into the
> justification for this.  Hiding this kind of thing indeed seems wrong to
> me, unless there is a really good justification for it, i.e. a way
> to use that info in an exploit.

To avoid breaking checkpoint/restart we need to limit information to the
namespaces the caller is a member of for the user and pid namespaces.

This roughly duplicates the parentage checks in ns_capable.

Conceptually this is the same as limiting .. in a chroot environment.

Eric

  reply	other threads:[~2016-07-25 15:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 58+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-07-14 18:20 Andrey Vagin
2016-07-14 18:20 ` [PATCH 1/5] namespaces: move user_ns into ns_common Andrey Vagin
2016-07-15 12:21   ` kbuild test robot
2016-07-14 18:20 ` [PATCH 2/5] kernel: add a helper to get an owning user namespace for a namespace Andrey Vagin
2016-07-14 19:07   ` W. Trevor King
2016-07-14 18:20 ` [PATCH 3/5] nsfs: add ioctl to get an owning user namespace for ns file descriptor Andrey Vagin
2016-07-14 18:48   ` W. Trevor King
2016-07-14 18:20 ` [PATCH 4/5] nsfs: add ioctl to get a parent namespace Andrey Vagin
2016-07-14 18:20 ` [PATCH 5/5] tools/testing: add a test to check nsfs ioctl-s Andrey Vagin
2016-07-14 22:02 ` [PATCH 0/5 RFC] Add an interface to discover relationships between namespaces Andrey Vagin
2016-07-15  2:12   ` [PATCH 1/5] namespaces: move user_ns into ns_common Andrey Vagin
2016-07-15  2:12     ` [PATCH 2/5] kernel: add a helper to get an owning user namespace for a namespace Andrey Vagin
2016-07-24  5:03       ` Eric W. Biederman
2016-07-24  6:37         ` Andrew Vagin
2016-07-24 14:30           ` Eric W. Biederman
2016-07-24 17:05             ` W. Trevor King
2016-07-24 16:54       ` W. Trevor King
2016-07-15  2:12     ` [PATCH 3/5] nsfs: add ioctl to get an owning user namespace for ns file descriptor Andrey Vagin
2016-07-15  2:12     ` [PATCH 4/5] nsfs: add ioctl to get a parent namespace Andrey Vagin
2016-07-24  5:07       ` Eric W. Biederman
2016-07-15  2:12     ` [PATCH 5/5] tools/testing: add a test to check nsfs ioctl-s Andrey Vagin
2016-07-16  8:21     ` [PATCH 1/5] namespaces: move user_ns into ns_common kbuild test robot
2016-07-23 23:07     ` kbuild test robot
2016-07-24  5:00     ` Eric W. Biederman
2016-07-24  5:54       ` Andrew Vagin
2016-07-24  5:10   ` [PATCH 0/5 RFC] Add an interface to discover relationships between namespaces Eric W. Biederman
2016-07-26  2:07     ` Andrew Vagin
2016-07-21 14:41 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2016-07-21 21:06   ` Andrew Vagin
     [not found]     ` <1515f5f2-5a49-fcab-61f4-8b627d3ba3e2@gmail.com>
2016-07-22 18:25       ` Andrey Vagin
2016-07-25 11:47         ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2016-07-25 13:18           ` Eric W. Biederman
2016-07-25 14:46             ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2016-07-25 14:54               ` Serge E. Hallyn
2016-07-25 15:17                 ` Eric W. Biederman [this message]
2016-07-25 14:59               ` Eric W. Biederman
2016-07-26  2:54                 ` Andrew Vagin
2016-07-26  8:03                   ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2016-07-26 18:25                     ` Andrew Vagin
2016-07-26 18:32                       ` W. Trevor King
2016-07-26 19:11                         ` Andrew Vagin
2016-07-26 19:17                       ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2016-07-26 20:39                         ` Andrew Vagin
2016-07-28 10:45                           ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2016-07-28 12:56                             ` Eric W. Biederman
2016-07-28 19:00                               ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2016-07-29 18:05                                 ` Eric W. Biederman
2016-07-31 21:31                                   ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2016-08-01 23:01                                   ` Andrew Vagin
2016-07-26 19:38                   ` Eric W. Biederman
2016-07-23 21:14 ` W. Trevor King
2016-07-23 21:38   ` James Bottomley
2016-07-23 21:58     ` W. Trevor King
2016-07-23 21:56       ` Eric W. Biederman
2016-07-23 22:34         ` W. Trevor King
2016-07-24  4:51           ` Eric W. Biederman
2016-08-01 18:20 ` Alban Crequy
2016-08-01 23:32   ` Andrew Vagin

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