From: Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@redhat.com>
To: Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>, "H . Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
the arch/x86 maintainers <x86@kernel.org>,
Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>,
Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
Brian Gerst <brgerst@gmail.com>,
Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>,
Byungchul Park <byungchul.park@lge.com>,
Nilay Vaish <nilayvaish@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/6] x86/dumpstack: make printk_stack_address() more generally useful
Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2016 16:07:16 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160825210716.e3p42qm5k4yd3cqb@treble> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAGXu5j+bU6aioi5AfTX25h0QBz_F_NmugTjW1sdAKrdgPKz8PA@mail.gmail.com>
On Thu, Aug 25, 2016 at 04:41:29PM -0400, Kees Cook wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 25, 2016 at 1:49 PM, Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@redhat.com> wrote:
> > On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 02:37:07PM -0500, Josh Poimboeuf wrote:
> >> On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 02:37:21PM -0400, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> >> > On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 2:22 PM, Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > I actively disable KASLR on my dev box and feed these hex numbers into
> >> > > addr2line -ie vmlinux to find where in the function we are.
> >> > >
> >> > > Having the option to make %pB generate them works for me.
> >> >
> >> > Yeah, considering that this is the only place this is used, changing
> >> > %pB sounds quite reasonable.
> >>
> >> There's now another use of '%pB' in proc_pid_stack() in the tip tree: I
> >> changed it to '%pB' from '%pS'. But I think the modified '%pB' would
> >> work there as well.
> >>
> >> > We could perhaps make %pB show the hex numbers and address (so pB
> >> > would expand to "[<hex>] symbolname".if
> >> >
> >> > (a) not randomizing (so the hex numbers _may_ be useful)
> >> >
> >> > (b) kptr_restrict is 0 (so the hex numbers are "safe" in the dmesg)
> >> >
> >> > and fall back to just the symbolic name if either of those aren't true?
> >>
> >> Do we really need to check for both? '%pK' only checks kptr_restrict.
> >> I'd think we should be consistent with that. And maybe there are some
> >> scenarios where the actual text addresses provide useful debug
> >> information if KASLR is enabled and kptr_restrict is zero.
> >
> > So I was looking at implementing this, and I noticed that '%pK' prints
> > "pK-error" if it's called from interrupt context when kptr_restrict==1.
> > Because checking CAP_SYSLOG would be meaningless in that case.
> >
> > I don't really understand the point of the "pK-error" thing. Any reason
> > why we can't print zero, i.e., just degrade the kptr_restrict from 1 to
> > 2 in an interrupt?
> >
> > That would make the '%pK' code simpler and usable from interrupt
> > context. Also it would make its behavior consistent with the proposed
> > '%pB' changes, and the kptr_restrict code could be shared between '%pK'
> > and '%pB'.
> >
> > Kess (or others), any objections if I make that change?
Ahem, Kees, sorry :-)
> I don't mind this becoming "0" on error. I suspect the rationale was
> to make it a discoverable condition and to avoid confusion.
>
> As far as expanding the usage, I'm still in favor, though there is
> work planned to make kptr_restrict go away in favor of having
> blacklisted destination buffers, etc. I'm hoping to have this as part
> of the continuing usercopy hardening work.
>
> Regardless, aren't these values being written to dmesg buffer?
> Traditionally we've not bothered censoring values that go there, as
> "dmesg_restrict" exists to protect those contents.
Ah, the plot thickens. I didn't know about 'dmesg_restrict'. So I
guess we don't have to restrict the stack dump addresses after all,
since the entire dmesg buffer is protected by syslog()?
If so, I'm thinking that expanding '%pB' wouldn't be worthwhile after
all, because its two users would have two different requirements for
printing the address: /proc/<pid>/stack needs to use kptr_restrict but
the unwinder doesn't.
In which case I think the current code is fine.
--
Josh
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2016-08-25 21:07 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2016-08-24 16:50 [PATCH 0/6] x86/dumpstack: more stack dump improvements Josh Poimboeuf
2016-08-24 16:50 ` [PATCH 1/6] perf/x86: check perf_callchain_store() error Josh Poimboeuf
2016-09-08 9:48 ` [tip:x86/asm] perf/x86: Check " tip-bot for Josh Poimboeuf
2016-08-24 16:50 ` [PATCH 2/6] oprofile/x86: add regs->ip to oprofile trace Josh Poimboeuf
2016-08-30 11:30 ` Robert Richter
2016-09-08 9:48 ` [tip:x86/asm] oprofile/x86: Add " tip-bot for Josh Poimboeuf
2016-08-24 16:50 ` [PATCH 3/6] x86/dumpstack: make printk_stack_address() more generally useful Josh Poimboeuf
2016-08-24 17:28 ` Joe Perches
2016-08-24 18:43 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2016-08-24 19:07 ` Joe Perches
2016-08-24 19:24 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2016-08-24 19:57 ` Joe Perches
2016-08-24 18:03 ` Linus Torvalds
2016-08-24 18:22 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-08-24 18:37 ` Linus Torvalds
2016-08-24 19:37 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2016-08-25 17:49 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2016-08-25 20:41 ` Kees Cook
2016-08-25 21:07 ` Josh Poimboeuf [this message]
[not found] ` <CA+55aFy3sgA4=ZPhiDWiRMvWj9QPhUd0JBdUr1hm_6G0aSC6uw@mail.gmail.com>
2016-08-26 2:19 ` Kees Cook
2016-08-26 3:19 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2016-08-26 4:40 ` Linus Torvalds
2016-08-26 5:56 ` Josh Poimboeuf
[not found] ` <CA+55aFy8FPRiEr-4p++TGj+keTNsg781q1E1FQZ7z4+nAs0ZaQ@mail.gmail.com>
2016-08-26 13:30 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2016-08-31 16:53 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2016-08-31 17:15 ` Linus Torvalds
2016-09-01 13:09 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2016-09-01 16:30 ` Linus Torvalds
2016-09-08 9:49 ` [tip:x86/asm] x86/dumpstack: Make " tip-bot for Josh Poimboeuf
2016-08-24 16:50 ` [PATCH 4/6] x86/dumpstack: add get_stack_pointer() and get_frame_pointer() Josh Poimboeuf
2016-09-08 9:49 ` [tip:x86/asm] x86/dumpstack: Add " tip-bot for Josh Poimboeuf
2016-08-24 16:50 ` [PATCH 5/6] x86/dumpstack: remove unnecessary stack pointer arguments Josh Poimboeuf
2016-09-08 9:50 ` [tip:x86/asm] x86/dumpstack: Remove " tip-bot for Josh Poimboeuf
2016-08-24 16:50 ` [PATCH 6/6] x86/dumpstack: allow preemption in show_stack_log_lvl() and dump_trace() Josh Poimboeuf
2016-09-08 7:04 ` Ingo Molnar
2016-09-08 21:47 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2016-09-08 21:49 ` [PATCH v2] " Josh Poimboeuf
2016-09-13 18:29 ` Ingo Molnar
2016-09-13 19:38 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2016-09-14 17:39 ` [tip:x86/asm] x86/dumpstack: Allow " tip-bot for Josh Poimboeuf
2016-09-09 6:11 ` [PATCH 6/6] x86/dumpstack: allow " Ingo Molnar
2016-09-01 13:13 ` [PATCH 0/6] x86/dumpstack: more stack dump improvements Josh Poimboeuf
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