From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Andreas Mohr <andi@lisas.de>
Cc: der.herr@hofr.at, Al Viro <viro@ZenIV.linux.org.uk>,
mingo@redhat.com, torvalds@linux-foundation.org,
dave@stgolabs.net, Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>,
riel@redhat.com, tj@kernel.org, paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/7] fs/locks: Replace lg_global with a percpu-rwsem
Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2016 10:23:28 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160906082328.GF10153@twins.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160906015800.GA31162@rhlx01.hs-esslingen.de>
On Tue, Sep 06, 2016 at 03:58:00AM +0200, Andreas Mohr wrote:
> Hi,
>
> [no properly binding reference via In-Reply-To: available thus manually re-creating, sorry]
>
> https://lkml.org/lkml/2016/9/5/832
Subscribe to lkml already.. also lkml.org is near useless these days,
please use any other archive.
> Two thoughts:
>
> ***multiple locks
>
> Don't have much insight into this
> (didn't spend much thinking on this),
> but of course it's unfortunate
> that two lock types need to be serviced
> rather than having the atomic handling exchange area/section
> be sufficiently guarded by one lock only
> (the question here could possibly be:
> what kind of currently existing
> structural disadvantage/layer distribution
> prevents us from being able to
> have things simply serviced
> within one granular lock area only?)
percpu rwsem is a sleeping lock, flc_flock is not. flc_flock also nests
under other non-sleeping locks, and therefore cannot (trivially) be made
a sleeping lock.
This is in the Changelog.
Furthermore, in the fast path of percpu_{down,up}_read() are exactly 0
atomic/serializing instructions.
> ***lock handling
>
> > + percpu_down_read(&file_rwsem);
> > spin_lock(&ctx->flc_lock);
>
>
> > spin_unlock(&ctx->flc_lock);
> > + percpu_up_read(&file_rwsem);
>
>
> These are repeated multiple times in this commit, thus error-prone.
>
> A possibly good way to commit-micro-manage this would be:
> 1. commit shoves things into a newly created encapsulation/wrapper helper
> stuff_lock(&flc_lock); /* <---- naming surely can be improved here */
No, because not all instances of flc_flock need the percpu-rwsem held,
creating such a wrapper could mistakenly create the impression it
should.
> That way it is pretty much guaranteed that:
> a) neither one nor the other lock type
> will get forgotten later, at a specific use site
That's what we have lockdep_assert_held() for. Note how this patch also
introduces percpu_rwsem_assert_held() usage, this insures we shall never
'forget' the appropriate locking.
> b) lock order will be correctly maintained at all times
> (AB-BA deadlock......)
lockdep is rather good at finding those, also might_sleep() debugging
would trivially catch those since percpu-rwsem is a sleeping lock while
fcl_flock is not.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2016-09-06 8:23 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 5+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2016-09-06 1:58 Andreas Mohr
2016-09-06 8:23 ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2016-09-06 8:36 ` Andreas Mohr
2016-09-06 8:59 ` Peter Zijlstra
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2016-09-05 19:40 [PATCH 0/7] perpcu rwsem, fs/locks and killing lglocks Peter Zijlstra
2016-09-05 19:40 ` [PATCH 2/7] fs/locks: Replace lg_global with a percpu-rwsem Peter Zijlstra
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