From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Andi Kleen <ak@linux.intel.com>
Cc: Alexander Shishkin <alexander.shishkin@linux.intel.com>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, vince@deater.net,
eranian@google.com, Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@infradead.org>,
tglx@linutronix.de
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 1/6] perf: Move mlock accounting to ring buffer allocation
Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2016 22:28:30 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160923202830.GQ5008@twins.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160923172615.GU3078@tassilo.jf.intel.com>
On Fri, Sep 23, 2016 at 10:26:15AM -0700, Andi Kleen wrote:
> > Afaict there's no actual need to hide the AUX buffer for this sampling
> > stuff; the user knows about all this and can simply mmap() the AUX part.
> > The sample could either point to locations in the AUX buffer, or (as I
> > think this code does) memcpy bits out.
>
> This would work for perf, but not for the core dump case below.
>
> > Ideally we'd pass the AUX-event into the syscall, that way you avoid all
> > the find_aux_event crud. I'm not sure we want to overload the group_fd
> > thing more (its already very hard to create counter groups in a cgroup
> > for example) ..
> >
> > Coredump was mentioned somewhere, but I'm not sure I've seen
> > code/interfaces for that. How was that envisioned to work?
>
> The idea was to have a rlimit that enables PT running as a ring buffer
> in the background. If something crashes the ring buffer is dumped
> as part of the core dump, and then gdb can tell you how you crashed.
> This extends what gdb already does explicitly today using perf
> API calls.
Well, we could 'force' inject a VMA into the process's address space, we
do that for a few other things as well. It also makes for less
exceptions with the actual core dumping.
But the worry I have is the total amount of pinned memory. If you want
to inherit this on fork(), as is a reasonable expectation, then its
possible to quickly exceed the total amount of pinnable memory.
At which point we _should_ start failing fork(), which is a somewhat
unexpected, and undesirable side-effect.
Ideally we'd unpin the old buffers and repin the new buffers on context
switch, but that's impossible since faulting needs scheduling,
recursion, we loose.
I really want to see something sensible before we go do that.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2016-09-23 20:28 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2016-09-23 11:27 [RFC PATCH 0/6] perf: Add AUX data sampling Alexander Shishkin
2016-09-23 11:27 ` [RFC PATCH 1/6] perf: Move mlock accounting to ring buffer allocation Alexander Shishkin
2016-09-23 12:14 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-09-23 14:27 ` Alexander Shishkin
2016-09-23 15:27 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-09-23 15:58 ` Alexander Shishkin
2016-09-23 17:26 ` Andi Kleen
2016-09-23 20:28 ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2016-09-26 8:27 ` Alexander Shishkin
2016-09-26 9:03 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-09-26 12:39 ` Alexander Shishkin
2016-09-26 16:13 ` Alexander Shishkin
2016-09-23 11:27 ` [RFC PATCH 2/6] perf: Add api to (de-)allocate AUX buffers for kernel counters Alexander Shishkin
2016-09-23 11:27 ` [RFC PATCH 3/6] perf: Add a helper for looking up pmus by type Alexander Shishkin
2016-09-23 11:27 ` [RFC PATCH 4/6] perf: Add infrastructure for using AUX data in perf samples Alexander Shishkin
2016-09-23 11:27 ` [RFC PATCH 5/6] perf: Disable PMU around address filter adjustment Alexander Shishkin
2016-09-23 11:27 ` [RFC PATCH 6/6] perf: Disable IRQs in address filter sync path Alexander Shishkin
2016-09-26 16:18 ` Alexander Shishkin
2016-10-04 16:49 ` Mathieu Poirier
2016-09-23 11:49 ` [RFC PATCH 0/6] perf: Add AUX data sampling Peter Zijlstra
2016-09-23 17:19 ` Andi Kleen
2016-09-23 20:35 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-09-23 22:34 ` Andi Kleen
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