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From: Alexander Shishkin <alexander.shishkin@linux.intel.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>, Andi Kleen <ak@linux.intel.com>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, vince@deater.net,
	eranian@google.com, Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@infradead.org>,
	tglx@linutronix.de
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 1/6] perf: Move mlock accounting to ring buffer allocation
Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2016 11:27:08 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <878tufrrqb.fsf@ashishki-desk.ger.corp.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160923202830.GQ5008@twins.programming.kicks-ass.net>

Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> writes:

> Well, we could 'force' inject a VMA into the process's address space, we
> do that for a few other things as well. It also makes for less
> exceptions with the actual core dumping.

Threads then will end up with the same buffer (through sharing the mm),
but they can't really share trace buffers.

Also, system core dump is still a problem.

> But the worry I have is the total amount of pinned memory. If you want
> to inherit this on fork(), as is a reasonable expectation, then its
> possible to quickly exceed the total amount of pinnable memory.
>
> At which point we _should_ start failing fork(), which is a somewhat
> unexpected, and undesirable side-effect.

I'm not sure I see why we should fail fork() when we run out of pinned
memory.

> Ideally we'd unpin the old buffers and repin the new buffers on context
> switch, but that's impossible since faulting needs scheduling,
> recursion, we loose.

Or we can have per-cpu buffers for all user's tasks, record where each
task starts and ends in each buffer and cut out only bits relevant to
the task(s) that dump core.

Regards,
--
Alex

  reply	other threads:[~2016-09-26  8:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-09-23 11:27 [RFC PATCH 0/6] perf: Add AUX data sampling Alexander Shishkin
2016-09-23 11:27 ` [RFC PATCH 1/6] perf: Move mlock accounting to ring buffer allocation Alexander Shishkin
2016-09-23 12:14   ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-09-23 14:27     ` Alexander Shishkin
2016-09-23 15:27       ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-09-23 15:58         ` Alexander Shishkin
2016-09-23 17:26     ` Andi Kleen
2016-09-23 20:28       ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-09-26  8:27         ` Alexander Shishkin [this message]
2016-09-26  9:03           ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-09-26 12:39             ` Alexander Shishkin
2016-09-26 16:13             ` Alexander Shishkin
2016-09-23 11:27 ` [RFC PATCH 2/6] perf: Add api to (de-)allocate AUX buffers for kernel counters Alexander Shishkin
2016-09-23 11:27 ` [RFC PATCH 3/6] perf: Add a helper for looking up pmus by type Alexander Shishkin
2016-09-23 11:27 ` [RFC PATCH 4/6] perf: Add infrastructure for using AUX data in perf samples Alexander Shishkin
2016-09-23 11:27 ` [RFC PATCH 5/6] perf: Disable PMU around address filter adjustment Alexander Shishkin
2016-09-23 11:27 ` [RFC PATCH 6/6] perf: Disable IRQs in address filter sync path Alexander Shishkin
2016-09-26 16:18   ` Alexander Shishkin
2016-10-04 16:49     ` Mathieu Poirier
2016-09-23 11:49 ` [RFC PATCH 0/6] perf: Add AUX data sampling Peter Zijlstra
2016-09-23 17:19   ` Andi Kleen
2016-09-23 20:35     ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-09-23 22:34       ` Andi Kleen

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