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From: Jarkko Sakkinen <jarkko.sakkinen@linux.intel.com>
To: Jason Gunthorpe <jgunthorpe@obsidianresearch.com>
Cc: "Winkler, Tomas" <tomas.winkler@intel.com>,
	"tpmdd-devel@lists.sourceforge.net" 
	<tpmdd-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] tpm: don't destroy chip device prematurely
Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2016 13:09:15 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20161005100915.GB20851@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20161004164738.GA17149@obsidianresearch.com>

On Tue, Oct 04, 2016 at 10:47:38AM -0600, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 04, 2016 at 08:19:46AM +0300, Jarkko Sakkinen wrote:
> 
> > > Make the driver uncallable first. The worst race that can happen is that
> > > open("/dev/tpm0", ...) returns -EPIPE. I do not consider this fatal at
> > > all.
> > 
> > No responses for this reasonable proposal so I'll show what I mean:
> 
> How is this any better than what Thomas proposed? It seems much worse
> to me since now we have even more stuff in the wrong order.
> 
> There are three purposes to the ordering as it stands today
>  1) To guarantee that tpm2_shutdown is the last command delivered to
>     the TPM. When it is issued all other ways to access the device
>     are hard fenced off.
>  2) To hard fence the tpm subsystem for the 'platform' driver. Once
>     tpm_del_char_device completes no callback into the driver
>     is possible *at all*. The driver can destroy everything
>     (iounmap, dereg irq, etc) and the driver module can be unloaded.
>  3) To prevent oopsing with the sysfs code. Recall this comment
> 
>         /* The sysfs routines rely on an implicit tpm_try_get_ops, device_del
>          * is called before ops is null'd and the sysfs core synchronizes this
>          * removal so that no callbacks are running or can run again
>          */
> 
>     device_del is what eliminates the sysfs access path, so
>     ordering device_del after ops = null is just unconditionally
>     wrong.
> 
> I still haven't heard an explanation why Thomas's other patches need
> this, or why trying to change this ordering makes any sense at
> all considering how the subsystem is constructed.
> 
> Further, if tpm_crb now needs a registered device, how on earth do all
> the chip ops we call work *before* registration? Or is that another
> bug?
> 
> Why can't tpm_crb return to the pre-registration operating state
> in the driver remove function before calling unregister?
> 
> None of this makes any sense to me.
> 
> This whole thing was very carefully constructed to work *correctly*
> during unregister. Many other subsystems have races and bugs during
> remove (eg see the securityfs discussion). TPM has a hard requirement
> to support safe unregister due to the vtpm stuff, so we don't get to
> screw it up just to support one driver.

Obviously a device is needed because it's required by the PM runtime
FW. I'm not following what you're saying about tpm2_shutdown(). With
the change I proposed it's the *very last* command delivered to the
device (because it's fenced by write lock).

> Jason

/Jarkko

  parent reply	other threads:[~2016-10-05 10:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-10-02  7:39 Tomas Winkler
2016-10-02 10:17 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2016-10-02 10:24   ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2016-10-02 21:21     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2016-10-03  7:05       ` Winkler, Tomas
2016-10-03  7:38         ` Winkler, Tomas
2016-10-03 12:42           ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2016-10-03 16:03             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2016-10-03 17:30               ` Winkler, Tomas
2016-10-03 12:48         ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2016-10-04  5:19           ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2016-10-04 16:47             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2016-10-04 21:55               ` Winkler, Tomas
2016-10-04 23:10                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2016-10-05  7:48                   ` Winkler, Tomas
2016-10-05 15:15                     ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2016-10-05 16:37                       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2016-10-05 17:11                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2016-10-05 20:09                       ` Winkler, Tomas
2016-10-05 21:16                         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2016-10-06  0:43                           ` Winkler, Tomas
2016-10-06  2:07                             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2016-10-07 14:24                               ` Winkler, Tomas
2016-10-07 19:17                                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2016-10-07 20:10                                   ` Winkler, Tomas
2016-10-08 10:47                                 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2016-10-05 10:02               ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2016-10-05 16:27                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2016-10-06 11:23                   ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2016-10-06 16:22                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2016-10-06 16:46                       ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2016-10-05 10:09               ` Jarkko Sakkinen [this message]
2016-10-03 16:00         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2016-10-03 17:16           ` Winkler, Tomas
2016-10-03 17:30             ` Jason Gunthorpe

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