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From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
Cc: mingo@kernel.org, juri.lelli@arm.com, rostedt@goodmis.org,
	xlpang@redhat.com, bigeasy@linutronix.de,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com,
	jdesfossez@efficios.com, bristot@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH 4/4] futex: Rewrite FUTEX_UNLOCK_PI
Date: Fri, 25 Nov 2016 10:23:26 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20161125092326.GG3174@twins.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20161124185807.GI3092@twins.programming.kicks-ass.net>

On Thu, Nov 24, 2016 at 07:58:07PM +0100, Peter Zijlstra wrote:

> OK, so clearly I'm confused. So let me try again.
> 
> LOCK_PI, does in one function: lookup_pi_state, and fixup_owner. If
> fixup_owner fails with -EAGAIN, we can redo the pi_state lookup.
> 
> The requeue stuff, otoh, has one each. REQUEUE_WAIT has fixup_owner(),
> CMP_REQUEUE has lookup_pi_state. Therefore, fixup_owner failing with
> -EAGAIN leaves us dead in the water. There's nothing to go back to to
> retry.
> 
> So far, so 'good', right?
> 
> Now, as far as I understand this requeue stuff, we have 2 futexes, an
> inner futex and an outer futex. The inner futex is always 'locked' and
> serves as a collection pool for waiting threads.
> 
> The requeue crap picks one (or more) waiters from the inner futex and
> sticks them on the outer futex, which gives them a chance to run.
> 
> So WAIT_REQUEUE blocks on the inner futex, but knows that if it ever
> gets woken, it will be on the outer futex, and hence needs to
> fixup_owner if the futex and rt_mutex state got out of sync.
> 
> CMP_REQUEUEUEUE picks the one (or more) waiters of the inner futex and
> sticks them on the outer futex.
> 
> So far, so 'good' ?
> 
> The thing I'm not entire sure on is what happens with the outer futex,
> do we first LOCK_PI it before doing CMP_REQUEUE, giving us waiters, and
> then UNLOCK_PI to let them rip? Or do we just CMP_REQUEUE and then let
> whoever wins finish with UNLOCK_PI?
> 
> 
> In any case, I don't think it matters much, either way we can race
> betwen the 'last' UNLOCK_PI and getting rt_mutex waiters and then hit
> the &init_task funny state, such that WAIT_REQUEUE waking hits EAGAIN
> and we're 'stuck'.
> 
> Now, if we always CMP_REQUEUE to a locked outer futex, then we cannot
> know, at CMP_REQUEUE time, who will win and cannot fix up.

OTOH, if we always first LOCK_PI before doing CMP_REQUEUE, I don't think
we can hit the funny state, LOCK_PI will have fixed it up for us.

So the question is, do we mandate LOCK_PI before CMP_REQUEUE?

  reply	other threads:[~2016-11-25  9:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-10-03  9:12 [RFC][PATCH 0/4] FUTEX_UNLOCK_PI wobbles Peter Zijlstra
2016-10-03  9:12 ` [RFC][PATCH 1/4] futex: Cleanup variable names for futex_top_waiter() Peter Zijlstra
2016-10-03 14:15   ` Steven Rostedt
2016-10-05  3:58   ` Davidlohr Bueso
2016-10-03  9:12 ` [RFC][PATCH 2/4] futex: Use smp_store_release() in mark_wake_futex() Peter Zijlstra
2016-10-03 14:19   ` Steven Rostedt
2016-10-05  3:57   ` Davidlohr Bueso
2016-10-05  6:20     ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-10-03  9:12 ` [RFC][PATCH 3/4] futex: Remove rt_mutex_deadlock_account_*() Peter Zijlstra
2016-10-03  9:34   ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-10-03 14:25   ` Steven Rostedt
2016-10-05  1:08   ` Davidlohr Bueso
2016-10-05  7:29   ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2016-10-03  9:12 ` [RFC][PATCH 4/4] futex: Rewrite FUTEX_UNLOCK_PI Peter Zijlstra
2016-10-03 15:36   ` Steven Rostedt
2016-10-03 15:44     ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-10-03 15:45     ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-10-03 16:23       ` Steven Rostedt
2016-10-05  7:41   ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2016-10-05  8:09     ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-10-05  8:21       ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2016-10-05  8:32         ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-10-06 10:29   ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-10-07 11:21   ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-10-08 15:53     ` Thomas Gleixner
2016-10-08 16:55       ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-10-08 17:06         ` Thomas Gleixner
2016-10-10 10:17         ` Thomas Gleixner
2016-10-10 11:40           ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-10-21 12:27           ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-10-27 20:36             ` Thomas Gleixner
2016-11-23 19:20               ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-11-24 16:52                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-11-24 17:56                   ` Thomas Gleixner
2016-11-24 18:58                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-11-25  9:23                       ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2016-11-25 10:03                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-11-25 19:13                           ` Thomas Gleixner
2016-11-25 14:09               ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-10-08 18:22     ` Thomas Gleixner
2016-10-09 11:17     ` Thomas Gleixner
2016-10-10 14:06       ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-10-05  1:02 ` [RFC][PATCH 0/4] FUTEX_UNLOCK_PI wobbles Davidlohr Bueso
2016-10-05  6:20   ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-10-05  7:26     ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2016-10-05 16:04     ` Davidlohr Bueso

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