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From: Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>,
	"Reshetova, Elena" <elena.reshetova@intel.com>,
	Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <h.peter.anvin@intel.com>,
	Will Deacon <will.deacon@arm.com>,
	David Windsor <dwindsor@gmail.com>,
	Hans Liljestrand <ishkamiel@gmail.com>,
	David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"kernel-hardening@lists.openwall.com" 
	<kernel-hardening@lists.openwall.com>
Subject: Re: [kernel-hardening] Re: [PATCH 4/4] refcount: Report failures through CHECK_DATA_CORRUPTION
Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2017 13:50:20 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170207135020.GA26173@leverpostej> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170207123630.GR6515@twins.programming.kicks-ass.net>

On Tue, Feb 07, 2017 at 01:36:30PM +0100, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 07, 2017 at 11:10:12AM +0000, Mark Rutland wrote:
> > On Tue, Feb 07, 2017 at 09:34:05AM +0100, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> > > On Mon, Feb 06, 2017 at 08:54:38AM -0800, Kees Cook wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Like I wrote, ideally we'd end up using something like the x86 exception
> > > > > table with a custom handler. Just no idea how to pull that off without
> > > > > doing a full blown arch specific implementation, so I didn't go there
> > > > > quite yet.
> > > > 
> > > > I haven't spent much time looking at the extable stuff. (Though
> > > > coincidentally, I was poking at it for x86's test_nx stuff...) I
> > > > thought there was a way to build arch-agnostic extables already?
> > > > kernel/extable.c is unconditionally built-in, for example.
> > > 
> > > That doesn't seem to be of much use. It only contains section sort and
> > > search functions.
> > > 
> > > Another problem for generic code would be to figure out what register
> > > the relevant variable would live in at the time of exception. Here its
> > > 'obviously' EAX because that's what cmpxchg requires, but in generic
> > > you'd need a means of querying GCC's register allocator at the exception
> > > point and somehow using that information for the generation of the
> > > exception handler.
> > 
> > I think we only need two arch-specific primitives:
> > (a) mangle a GCC assigned register into an idx stored in the extable
> > (b) take said index, and grab the relevant register from pt_regs
> > 
> > Then you can have a BUG_VALUE(v, ...), where we use an input "r" (val),
> > and mangle that into the idx in the extable. In the common case, I'd
> > hope GCC would leave the register in-place from the cmpxchg.
> > 
> > ... or have I misundertood? :)
> 
> Right something along those lines. (a) will need GCC help, and (b) would
> be kernel-arch specific. So this isn't something we can quickly do.

I agree this isn't something that can be hacked together quickly, and
certainly shouldn't block these patches.

However, I don't think we need anything new from GCC, and I think we
already have a generic API for (b).

For (a) we don't need new GCC help if we do something like we did in
commit 72c5839515260dce to do the mangling. Prepend a prefix to the
register, e.g. changing 'x0' to '__pt_regs_offset_x0', which we arrange
to hold the correct value.

For (b) we already have regs_get_register().

Thanks,
Mark.

  reply	other threads:[~2017-02-07 13:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-02-03 23:26 [PATCH 0/4] refcount_t followups Kees Cook
2017-02-03 23:26 ` [PATCH 1/4] refcount_t: fix Kconfig help Kees Cook
2017-02-03 23:26 ` [PATCH 2/4] lkdtm: convert to refcount_t testing Kees Cook
2017-02-10  8:32   ` [tip:locking/core] lkdtm: Convert " tip-bot for Kees Cook
2017-02-03 23:26 ` [PATCH 3/4] bug: Switch data corruption check to __must_check Kees Cook
2017-02-03 23:26 ` [PATCH 4/4] refcount: Report failures through CHECK_DATA_CORRUPTION Kees Cook
2017-02-05 15:40   ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-02-05 23:33     ` Kees Cook
2017-02-06  8:57       ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-02-06 16:54         ` Kees Cook
2017-02-07  8:34           ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-02-07 11:10             ` [kernel-hardening] " Mark Rutland
2017-02-07 12:36               ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-02-07 13:50                 ` Mark Rutland [this message]
2017-02-07 15:07                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-02-07 16:03                     ` Mark Rutland
2017-02-07 17:30                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-02-07 17:55                         ` Mark Rutland
2017-02-08  9:12                           ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-02-08  9:43                             ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-02-08 14:10                             ` Mark Rutland
2017-02-08 21:20                             ` Kees Cook
2017-02-09 10:27                               ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-02-10 23:39                                 ` Kees Cook

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