From: Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@gmail.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: Will Deacon <will.deacon@arm.com>,
Paul McKenney <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH]: documentation,atomic: Add a new atomic_t document
Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2017 21:56:32 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170611135632.sl72klbeklelupej@tardis> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170609193604.ncw3hhgvewzc3h5u@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net>
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Hi Peter,
On Fri, Jun 09, 2017 at 09:36:04PM +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
[...]
> > > +Ordering: (go read memory-barriers.txt first)
> > > +
> > > +The rule of thumb:
> > > +
> > > + - non-RmW operations are unordered;
> > > +
> > > + - RmW operations that have no return value are unordered;
> > > +
> > > + - RmW operations that have a return value are Sequentially Consistent;
> >
> > I think it's stronger than that, because they also order non-RmW operations,
> > whereas this makes it sounds like there's just a total order over all RmW
> > operations.
>
> Right, what should I call it?
>
I think the term we use to refer this behavior is "fully-ordered"? Could
we give it a slight formal definition like:
a. memory operations preceding and following the RmW operation is
Sequentially Consistent.
b. load or store part of the RmW operation is Sequentially
Consistent with operations preceding or following.
Though, sounds like defining "fully-ordered" is the job for
memory-barriers.txt, but it's never done ;-)
Regards,
Boqun
> > > + - RmW operations that are conditional are unordered on FAILURE, otherwise the
> > > + above rules apply.
> >
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2017-06-11 13:54 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-06-09 9:24 Peter Zijlstra
2017-06-09 11:05 ` [RFC][PATCH] atomic: Fix atomic_set_release() for 'funny' architectures Peter Zijlstra
2017-06-09 11:13 ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-06-09 17:28 ` Vineet Gupta
2017-06-09 18:49 ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-06-09 18:58 ` James Bottomley
2017-06-09 14:03 ` Chris Metcalf
2017-08-10 12:10 ` [tip:locking/core] locking/atomic: " tip-bot for Peter Zijlstra
2017-06-09 15:44 ` [RFC][PATCH]: documentation,atomic: Add a new atomic_t document Will Deacon
2017-06-09 19:36 ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-06-11 13:56 ` Boqun Feng [this message]
2017-06-12 14:49 ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-06-13 6:39 ` Boqun Feng
2017-06-14 12:33 ` Will Deacon
2017-07-12 12:53 ` Boqun Feng
2017-07-12 13:08 ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-07-12 19:13 ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-07-26 11:53 ` [RFC][PATCH v3]: documentation,atomic: Add new documents Peter Zijlstra
2017-07-26 12:47 ` Boqun Feng
2017-07-31 9:05 ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-07-31 11:04 ` Boqun Feng
2017-07-31 17:43 ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-08-01 2:14 ` Boqun Feng
2017-08-01 9:01 ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-08-01 10:19 ` Will Deacon
2017-08-01 11:47 ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-08-01 12:17 ` Will Deacon
2017-08-01 12:52 ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-08-01 16:14 ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-08-01 16:42 ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-08-01 16:53 ` Will Deacon
2017-08-01 22:18 ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-08-02 8:46 ` Will Deacon
2017-08-01 18:37 ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-08-02 9:45 ` Will Deacon
2017-08-02 16:17 ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-08-03 14:05 ` Boqun Feng
2017-08-03 14:55 ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-08-03 16:12 ` Will Deacon
2017-08-03 16:58 ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-08-01 13:35 ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-07-26 16:28 ` Randy Dunlap
2017-06-09 18:15 ` [RFC][PATCH]: documentation,atomic: Add a new atomic_t document Randy Dunlap
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