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From: "Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill@shutemov.name>
To: Adam Borowski <kilobyte@angband.pl>
Cc: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>, Ian Molton <spyro2@gmail.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Problematic culture around Signed-off-by
Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2017 16:44:49 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170731134449.gjdaiopb2m63jc23@node.shutemov.name> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170731133411.3uvgi4sf5h4jwh4m@angband.pl>

On Mon, Jul 31, 2017 at 03:34:11PM +0200, Adam Borowski wrote:
> On Sun, Jul 30, 2017 at 08:52:36PM +0200, Pavel Machek wrote:
> > > I've been away from kernel development for a bit, but I've returned and
> > > I'm troubled by what seems to be an entrenched and widespread (IMO)
> > > misuse of the "Signed-off-by:" in commits.
> > > 
> > > I've now either been asked to sign off RFC quality patches "because its
> > > quicker" on more than one occasion in the last week or so, and I've seen
> > > others signing off code which clearly has no hope of going anywhere near
> > > the kernel. (eg. // commented out lines)
> > > 
> > > I was of the impression that Signed-off-by: was intended to be used on
> > > essentially *finished* commits, indicating both readiness for inclusion
> > > upstream and ones ownership of the copyright.
> > > 
> > > Even if the intent is *purely* a copyright isue, Signing off
> > > *everything* surely makes it far too easy for people to get junk into
> > > the kernel.
> > 
> > I normally sign-off everything... because getting patch without
> > sign-off is nasty. If maintainer gets unclean, but signed-off patch,
> > he can just clean it up, add his sign-off and continue normally.
> 
> Yet there are cases with known but unobvious breakage (see below).
> 
> > That may or may not be allowed if patch is not signed-off. (We are in
> > lawyer teritory now.)
> > 
> > So I'd recommend signing everything, and if patch is considered "not
> > ready", make it clear in some other way.
> 
> I think it'd be much better if you could suggest a new marker.  Something
> like "Copyright-but-not-Readiness-Signed-off-by:", "RFC-Signed-off-by:",
> "WIP-Signed-off-by:", etc.

I use (and saw other people used) "Not-Yet-Signed-off-by:" for this
purpose.

-- 
 Kirill A. Shutemov

  reply	other threads:[~2017-07-31 13:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 5+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-07-21 11:40 Ian Molton
2017-07-30 18:52 ` Pavel Machek
2017-07-31 13:34   ` Adam Borowski
2017-07-31 13:44     ` Kirill A. Shutemov [this message]
2017-07-31 13:58       ` Pavel Machek

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