From: Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@redhat.com>
To: Juergen Gross <jgross@suse.com>
Cc: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
"Levin, Alexander (Sasha Levin)" <alexander.levin@verizon.com>,
"x86@kernel.org" <x86@kernel.org>,
"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
"live-patching@vger.kernel.org" <live-patching@vger.kernel.org>,
Jiri Slaby <jslaby@suse.cz>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>, Mike Galbraith <efault@gmx.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 1/2] x86/unwind: add ORC unwinder
Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2017 09:39:10 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170810143910.y2wlb3btm5o2hxts@treble> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <b3ed30d4-9c6d-ae91-b876-486f18d638f3@suse.com>
On Thu, Aug 10, 2017 at 04:24:58PM +0200, Juergen Gross wrote:
> >> I'll send some patches to:
> >>
> >> - remove xen_patch()
> >> - remove lguest
> >> - remove vsmp
> >>
> >> In case nobody objects to apply those patches we can possibly simplify
> >> some more code.
> >>
> >> I'd love that. :-)
> >
> > Well, I might have spoken too soon about getting rid of vsmp. The
> > scalemp.com domain still exists. The code hasn't changed much in three
> > years, but maybe it's simple enough that it hasn't needed to change.
>
> Lets see. I have made the experience that asking whether some code can
> be removed almost never get answers. Sending a patch which actually
> removes the stuff results much more often in objections. :-)
>
> > Also, looking at the lguest mailing list, there seem to have been at
> > least a few people trying lguest out in the past year or so.
>
> Well, yes. The question is here whether there is a _need_ for lguest
> or was it just out of curiosity?
>
> In the end it is 32 bit only and you can easily test boot code via
> KVM, Xen or qemu.
Good points. I'm all for removing code, so you have no objections from
me :-)
> > Even if we couldn't get rid of vsmp or lguest, I wonder if the PVOP_CALL
> > stuff could be reworked to something like the following:
> >
> > static inline notrace unsigned long arch_local_save_flags(void)
> > {
> > return PVOP_CALLEE0(unsigned long, pv_irq_ops.save_fl,
> > "pushfq; popq %rax", CPU_FEATURE_NATIVE,
> > "call __raw_callee_save_xen_save_fl", CPU_FEATURE_XEN,
> > "call __raw_callee_save_vsmp_save_fl", CPU_FEATURE_VSMP,
> > "call __raw_callee_save_lguest_save_fl", CPU_FEATURE_LGUEST);
> > }
> >
> > Which would eventually translate to something like:
> >
> > asm volatile(ALTERNATIVE_4("call *pv_irq_ops.save_fl",
> > "pushfq; popq %rax", CPU_FEATURE_NATIVE,
> > "call __raw_callee_save_xen_save_fl", CPU_FEATURE_XEN,
> > "call __raw_callee_save_vsmp_save_fl", CPU_FEATURE_VSMP,
> > "call __raw_callee_save_lguest_save_fl", CPU_FEATURE_LGUEST
> > : ... pvop clobber stuff ... );
> >
> > where ALTERNATIVE_4 is a logical extension of ALTERNATIVE_2 and
> > CPU_FEATURE_NATIVE would always be set.
> >
> > It might need some more macro magic, but if it worked I think it would
> > be a lot clearer than the current voodoo.
> >
> > Thoughts?
>
> Hmm, this would modify the current approach of pvops completely: instead
> of letting each user of pvops (xen, lguest, vsmp, ...) set the functions
> it is needing, you'd have to modify the core definition of each pvops
> function for each user.
Right. The callers (arch_local_save_flags, etc) would have to know
about the different hypervisors' functions. But this knowledge could be
hidden in inline functions and/or macros, so I don't see it being too
much of a problem.
The upsides are that the behavior is much clearer (IMO), and we could
get rid of the .parainstructions stuff altogether.
> Or would you want to let Xen, lguest etc. opt in
> for pvops and generate above code at build time from some templates?
I'm not sure what you mean, can you clarify?
--
Josh
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Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-07-24 23:36 [PATCH v4 0/2] " Josh Poimboeuf
2017-07-24 23:36 ` [PATCH v4 1/2] x86/unwind: add " Josh Poimboeuf
2017-07-26 12:10 ` [tip:x86/asm] x86/unwind: Add the " tip-bot for Josh Poimboeuf
2017-07-28 16:48 ` [PATCH v4 1/2] x86/unwind: add " Levin, Alexander (Sasha Levin)
2017-07-28 17:52 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2017-07-28 18:29 ` Levin, Alexander (Sasha Levin)
2017-07-28 18:57 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2017-07-28 19:59 ` Levin, Alexander (Sasha Levin)
2017-07-29 3:54 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2017-08-08 18:58 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2017-08-08 19:03 ` Linus Torvalds
2017-08-08 19:13 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2017-08-08 20:09 ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-08-08 22:00 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2017-08-09 8:49 ` Juergen Gross
2017-08-09 9:16 ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-08-09 9:24 ` Juergen Gross
2017-08-09 9:35 ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-08-09 9:55 ` Juergen Gross
2017-08-09 20:15 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2017-08-10 7:05 ` Juergen Gross
2017-08-10 14:09 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2017-08-10 14:24 ` Juergen Gross
2017-08-10 14:39 ` Josh Poimboeuf [this message]
2017-08-10 14:59 ` Juergen Gross
2017-08-10 15:49 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2017-08-10 14:42 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2017-08-09 16:11 ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-08-09 17:52 ` Juergen Gross
2017-09-27 21:08 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2017-09-28 6:03 ` Juergen Gross
2017-09-28 13:55 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2017-09-28 13:58 ` Juergen Gross
2017-07-24 23:36 ` [PATCH v4 2/2] x86/kconfig: make it easier to switch to the new " Josh Poimboeuf
2017-07-25 9:10 ` Ingo Molnar
2017-07-25 13:54 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2017-07-26 12:11 ` [tip:x86/asm] x86/kconfig: Consolidate unwinders into multiple choice selection tip-bot for Josh Poimboeuf
2017-07-26 12:10 ` [tip:x86/asm] x86/kconfig: Make it easier to switch to the new ORC unwinder tip-bot for Josh Poimboeuf
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