From: Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@redhat.com>
To: Juergen Gross <jgross@suse.com>
Cc: Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
"Levin, Alexander (Sasha Levin)" <alexander.levin@verizon.com>,
"x86@kernel.org" <x86@kernel.org>,
"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
"live-patching@vger.kernel.org" <live-patching@vger.kernel.org>,
Jiri Slaby <jslaby@suse.cz>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
Mike Galbraith <efault@gmx.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 1/2] x86/unwind: add ORC unwinder
Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2017 08:55:14 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170928135514.7wrsp4u53y3jkc3w@treble> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <28165862-9938-6742-6770-f59b2f120563@suse.com>
On Thu, Sep 28, 2017 at 08:03:26AM +0200, Juergen Gross wrote:
> On 27/09/17 23:08, Josh Poimboeuf wrote:
> > On Tue, Aug 08, 2017 at 01:09:08PM -0700, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
> >> On Tue, Aug 8, 2017 at 12:13 PM, Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@redhat.com> wrote:
> >>> On Tue, Aug 08, 2017 at 12:03:51PM -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> >>>> On Tue, Aug 8, 2017 at 11:58 AM, Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@redhat.com> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Take for example the lock_is_held_type() function. In vmlinux, it has
> >>>>> the following instruction:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> callq *0xffffffff85a94880 (pv_irq_ops.save_fl)
> >>>>>
> >>>>> At runtime, that instruction is patched and replaced with a fast inline
> >>>>> version of arch_local_save_flags() which eliminates the call:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> pushfq
> >>>>> pop %rax
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The problem is when an interrupt hits after the push:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> pushfq
> >>>>> --- irq ---
> >>>>> pop %rax
> >>>>
> >>>> That should actually be something easily fixable, for an odd reason:
> >>>> the instruction boundaries are different.
> >>>>
> >>>>> I'm not sure what the solution should be. It will probably need to be
> >>>>> one of the following:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> a) either don't allow runtime "alternative" patches to mess with the
> >>>>> stack pointer (objtool could enforce this); or
> >>>>>
> >>>>> b) come up with some way to register such patches with the ORC
> >>>>> unwinder at runtime.
> >>>>
> >>>> c) just add ORC data for the alternative statically and _unconditionally_.
> >>>>
> >>>> No runtime registration. Just an unconditional entry for the
> >>>> particular IP that comes after the "pushfq". It cannot match the
> >>>> "callq" instruction, since it would be in the middle of that
> >>>> instruction.
> >>>>
> >>>> Basically, just do a "union" of the ORC data for all the alternatives.
> >>>>
> >>>> Now, objtool should still verify that the instruction pointers for
> >>>> alternatives are unique - or that they share the same ORC unwinder
> >>>> information if they are not.
> >>>>
> >>>> But in cases like this, when the instruction boundaires are different,
> >>>> things should "just work", with no need for any special cases.
> >>>>
> >>>> Hmm?
> >>>
> >>> Yeah, that might work. Objtool already knows about alternatives, so it
> >>> might not be too hard. I'll try it.
> >>
> >> But this one's not an actual alternative, right? It's a pv op.
> >>
> >> I would advocate that we make it an alternative after all. I frickin'
> >> hate the PV irq ops. It would like roughly like this:
> >>
> >> ALTERNATIVE "pushfq; popq %rax", "callq *pv_irq_ops.save_fl",
> >> X86_FEATURE_GODDAMN_PV_IRQ_OPS
> >>
> >> (The obvious syntax error and the naming should probably be fixed.
> >> Also, this needs to live in an #ifdef because it needs to build on
> >> kernels with pv support. It should also properly register itself as a
> >> pv patch site.)
> >
> > I've got a prototype of the above working, where vmlinux shows:
> >
> > pushfq
> > pop %rax
> > nop
> > nop
> > nop
> > nop
> > nop
> >
> > instead of:
> >
> > callq *0xffffffff81e3a400 (pv_irq_ops.save_fl)
> >
> > Which is nice because the vmlinux disassembly now matches the most
> > common runtime cases (everything except Xen and vsmp). And it also
> > fixes the upthread objtool issue.
> >
> > The only slight issue with the patches is that hypervisors need access
> > to the pv ops much earlier than when alternatives are applied. So I had
> > to add a new .pv_alternatives section for these pv ops alternatives, so
> > they can be patched very early, if running in a hypervisor.
> >
> > Will clean up the code and post something relatively soon.
> >
>
> Are you combining alternatives and pvops then? I'm asking because in an
> up and running system under Xen the callq *... will be replaced with a
> much faster "call xen_save_fl". This should still be the case after
> your patch.
Right, it's not combining alternatives and pv ops, it's just adding
another step. So first the
pushfq; pop %rax
is replaced with
callq *pv_irq_ops.save_fl
and then later, after the xen ops structs are finalized, it's replaced
with
callq xen_save_fl
--
Josh
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2017-09-28 13:55 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-07-24 23:36 [PATCH v4 0/2] " Josh Poimboeuf
2017-07-24 23:36 ` [PATCH v4 1/2] x86/unwind: add " Josh Poimboeuf
2017-07-26 12:10 ` [tip:x86/asm] x86/unwind: Add the " tip-bot for Josh Poimboeuf
2017-07-28 16:48 ` [PATCH v4 1/2] x86/unwind: add " Levin, Alexander (Sasha Levin)
2017-07-28 17:52 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2017-07-28 18:29 ` Levin, Alexander (Sasha Levin)
2017-07-28 18:57 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2017-07-28 19:59 ` Levin, Alexander (Sasha Levin)
2017-07-29 3:54 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2017-08-08 18:58 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2017-08-08 19:03 ` Linus Torvalds
2017-08-08 19:13 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2017-08-08 20:09 ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-08-08 22:00 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2017-08-09 8:49 ` Juergen Gross
2017-08-09 9:16 ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-08-09 9:24 ` Juergen Gross
2017-08-09 9:35 ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-08-09 9:55 ` Juergen Gross
2017-08-09 20:15 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2017-08-10 7:05 ` Juergen Gross
2017-08-10 14:09 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2017-08-10 14:24 ` Juergen Gross
2017-08-10 14:39 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2017-08-10 14:59 ` Juergen Gross
2017-08-10 15:49 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2017-08-10 14:42 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2017-08-09 16:11 ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-08-09 17:52 ` Juergen Gross
2017-09-27 21:08 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2017-09-28 6:03 ` Juergen Gross
2017-09-28 13:55 ` Josh Poimboeuf [this message]
2017-09-28 13:58 ` Juergen Gross
2017-07-24 23:36 ` [PATCH v4 2/2] x86/kconfig: make it easier to switch to the new " Josh Poimboeuf
2017-07-25 9:10 ` Ingo Molnar
2017-07-25 13:54 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2017-07-26 12:11 ` [tip:x86/asm] x86/kconfig: Consolidate unwinders into multiple choice selection tip-bot for Josh Poimboeuf
2017-07-26 12:10 ` [tip:x86/asm] x86/kconfig: Make it easier to switch to the new ORC unwinder tip-bot for Josh Poimboeuf
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