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From: Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@redhat.com>
To: Juergen Gross <jgross@suse.com>
Cc: Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	"Levin, Alexander (Sasha Levin)" <alexander.levin@verizon.com>,
	"x86@kernel.org" <x86@kernel.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"live-patching@vger.kernel.org" <live-patching@vger.kernel.org>,
	Jiri Slaby <jslaby@suse.cz>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Mike Galbraith <efault@gmx.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 1/2] x86/unwind: add ORC unwinder
Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2017 08:55:14 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170928135514.7wrsp4u53y3jkc3w@treble> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <28165862-9938-6742-6770-f59b2f120563@suse.com>

On Thu, Sep 28, 2017 at 08:03:26AM +0200, Juergen Gross wrote:
> On 27/09/17 23:08, Josh Poimboeuf wrote:
> > On Tue, Aug 08, 2017 at 01:09:08PM -0700, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
> >> On Tue, Aug 8, 2017 at 12:13 PM, Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@redhat.com> wrote:
> >>> On Tue, Aug 08, 2017 at 12:03:51PM -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> >>>> On Tue, Aug 8, 2017 at 11:58 AM, Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@redhat.com> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Take for example the lock_is_held_type() function.  In vmlinux, it has
> >>>>> the following instruction:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>   callq *0xffffffff85a94880 (pv_irq_ops.save_fl)
> >>>>>
> >>>>> At runtime, that instruction is patched and replaced with a fast inline
> >>>>> version of arch_local_save_flags() which eliminates the call:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>   pushfq
> >>>>>   pop %rax
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The problem is when an interrupt hits after the push:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>   pushfq
> >>>>>   --- irq ---
> >>>>>   pop %rax
> >>>>
> >>>> That should actually be something easily fixable, for an odd reason:
> >>>> the instruction boundaries are different.
> >>>>
> >>>>> I'm not sure what the solution should be.  It will probably need to be
> >>>>> one of the following:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>   a) either don't allow runtime "alternative" patches to mess with the
> >>>>>      stack pointer (objtool could enforce this); or
> >>>>>
> >>>>>   b) come up with some way to register such patches with the ORC
> >>>>>      unwinder at runtime.
> >>>>
> >>>> c) just add ORC data for the alternative statically and _unconditionally_.
> >>>>
> >>>> No runtime registration. Just an unconditional entry for the
> >>>> particular IP that comes after the "pushfq". It cannot match the
> >>>> "callq" instruction, since it would be in the middle of that
> >>>> instruction.
> >>>>
> >>>> Basically, just do a "union" of the ORC data for all the alternatives.
> >>>>
> >>>> Now, objtool should still verify that the instruction pointers for
> >>>> alternatives are unique - or that they share the same ORC unwinder
> >>>> information if they are not.
> >>>>
> >>>> But in cases like this, when the instruction boundaires are different,
> >>>> things should "just work", with no need for any special cases.
> >>>>
> >>>> Hmm?
> >>>
> >>> Yeah, that might work.  Objtool already knows about alternatives, so it
> >>> might not be too hard.  I'll try it.
> >>
> >> But this one's not an actual alternative, right?  It's a pv op.
> >>
> >> I would advocate that we make it an alternative after all.  I frickin'
> >> hate the PV irq ops.  It would like roughly like this:
> >>
> >> ALTERNATIVE "pushfq; popq %rax", "callq *pv_irq_ops.save_fl",
> >> X86_FEATURE_GODDAMN_PV_IRQ_OPS
> >>
> >> (The obvious syntax error and the naming should probably be fixed.
> >> Also, this needs to live in an #ifdef because it needs to build on
> >> kernels with pv support.  It should also properly register itself as a
> >> pv patch site.)
> > 
> > I've got a prototype of the above working, where vmlinux shows:
> > 
> >   pushfq
> >   pop    %rax
> >   nop
> >   nop
> >   nop
> >   nop
> >   nop
> > 
> > instead of:
> > 
> >   callq  *0xffffffff81e3a400 (pv_irq_ops.save_fl)
> > 
> > Which is nice because the vmlinux disassembly now matches the most
> > common runtime cases (everything except Xen and vsmp).  And it also
> > fixes the upthread objtool issue.
> > 
> > The only slight issue with the patches is that hypervisors need access
> > to the pv ops much earlier than when alternatives are applied.  So I had
> > to add a new .pv_alternatives section for these pv ops alternatives, so
> > they can be patched very early, if running in a hypervisor.
> > 
> > Will clean up the code and post something relatively soon.
> > 
> 
> Are you combining alternatives and pvops then? I'm asking because in an
> up and running system under Xen the callq *... will be replaced with a
> much faster "call xen_save_fl". This should still be the case after
> your patch.

Right, it's not combining alternatives and pv ops, it's just adding
another step.  So first the

  pushfq; pop %rax

is replaced with

  callq *pv_irq_ops.save_fl

and then later, after the xen ops structs are finalized, it's replaced
with

  callq xen_save_fl

-- 
Josh

  reply	other threads:[~2017-09-28 13:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-07-24 23:36 [PATCH v4 0/2] " Josh Poimboeuf
2017-07-24 23:36 ` [PATCH v4 1/2] x86/unwind: add " Josh Poimboeuf
2017-07-26 12:10   ` [tip:x86/asm] x86/unwind: Add the " tip-bot for Josh Poimboeuf
2017-07-28 16:48   ` [PATCH v4 1/2] x86/unwind: add " Levin, Alexander (Sasha Levin)
2017-07-28 17:52     ` Josh Poimboeuf
2017-07-28 18:29       ` Levin, Alexander (Sasha Levin)
2017-07-28 18:57         ` Josh Poimboeuf
2017-07-28 19:59           ` Levin, Alexander (Sasha Levin)
2017-07-29  3:54             ` Josh Poimboeuf
2017-08-08 18:58               ` Josh Poimboeuf
2017-08-08 19:03                 ` Linus Torvalds
2017-08-08 19:13                   ` Josh Poimboeuf
2017-08-08 20:09                     ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-08-08 22:00                       ` Josh Poimboeuf
2017-08-09  8:49                       ` Juergen Gross
2017-08-09  9:16                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-08-09  9:24                           ` Juergen Gross
2017-08-09  9:35                             ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-08-09  9:55                               ` Juergen Gross
2017-08-09 20:15                                 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2017-08-10  7:05                                   ` Juergen Gross
2017-08-10 14:09                                     ` Josh Poimboeuf
2017-08-10 14:24                                       ` Juergen Gross
2017-08-10 14:39                                         ` Josh Poimboeuf
2017-08-10 14:59                                           ` Juergen Gross
2017-08-10 15:49                                             ` Josh Poimboeuf
2017-08-10 14:42                                       ` Josh Poimboeuf
2017-08-09 16:11                         ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-08-09 17:52                           ` Juergen Gross
2017-09-27 21:08                       ` Josh Poimboeuf
2017-09-28  6:03                         ` Juergen Gross
2017-09-28 13:55                           ` Josh Poimboeuf [this message]
2017-09-28 13:58                             ` Juergen Gross
2017-07-24 23:36 ` [PATCH v4 2/2] x86/kconfig: make it easier to switch to the new " Josh Poimboeuf
2017-07-25  9:10   ` Ingo Molnar
2017-07-25 13:54     ` Josh Poimboeuf
2017-07-26 12:11       ` [tip:x86/asm] x86/kconfig: Consolidate unwinders into multiple choice selection tip-bot for Josh Poimboeuf
2017-07-26 12:10   ` [tip:x86/asm] x86/kconfig: Make it easier to switch to the new ORC unwinder tip-bot for Josh Poimboeuf

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