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From: Willy Tarreau <w@1wt.eu>
To: Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>
Cc: Nadav Amit <namit@vmware.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, luto@kernel.org,
	tglx@linutronix.de, mingo@redhat.com, hpa@zytor.com,
	x86@kernel.org, nadav.amit@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [RFC] x86: Avoid CR3 load on compatibility mode with PTI
Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2018 20:52:52 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180115195252.GH7804@1wt.eu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <57a8fa6b-a1d1-d440-ce13-b1d06d265584@linux.intel.com>

On Mon, Jan 15, 2018 at 11:49:19AM -0800, Dave Hansen wrote:
> If we start disabling PTI willy nilly at points _away_ from the
> capability checks (like for 32-bit binaries, say), then it gets really
> hard to decide if we are doing the right things.
> 
> Also, what's the end goal here?  Run old 32-bit binaries better?  You
> want to weaken the security of the whole implementation to do that?
> Sounds like a bad tradeoff to me.

In fact I understand it differently, which is that by running 32-bit,
he can recover the original performance without sacrifying security.
It's not that bad actually when you think about it since the vast
majority of performance-sensitive software doesn't need to access
even one GB of data.

Willy

  reply	other threads:[~2018-01-15 19:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-01-14 20:13 Nadav Amit
2018-01-15 17:20 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-01-15 17:42   ` Nadav Amit
2018-01-15 17:45     ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-01-15 17:50       ` Nadav Amit
2018-01-15 18:04         ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-01-15 18:50           ` Nadav Amit
2018-01-15 19:49 ` Dave Hansen
2018-01-15 19:52   ` Willy Tarreau [this message]
2018-01-15 20:09   ` Nadav Amit
2018-01-16  0:41     ` Ingo Molnar
2018-01-16  3:49       ` Nadav Amit
2018-01-20 14:26         ` Ingo Molnar
2018-01-20 16:31           ` Willy Tarreau

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