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From: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>
To: Prateek Sood <prsood@codeaurora.org>
Cc: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	avagin@gmail.com, mingo@kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	cgroups@vger.kernel.org, sramana@codeaurora.org,
	"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] cgroup/cpuset: fix circular locking dependency
Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2018 08:27:30 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180116162730.GQ3460072@devbig577.frc2.facebook.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3c9b2a2d-ede4-1242-418a-353ec9f78db3@codeaurora.org>

Hello, Prateek.

On Mon, Jan 15, 2018 at 05:32:18PM +0530, Prateek Sood wrote:
> My understanding of WQ_MEM_RECLAIM was that it needs to be used for
> cases where memory pressure could cause deadlocks.

Yes, that is the primary role; however, there are a couple places
where we need it to isolate a low level subsystem's forward progress
from the dependencies of the dynanic worker pool management.

> In this case it does not seem to be a memory pressure issue.
> Overloading WQ_MEM_RECLAIM usage for solution to another problem
> is the correct approach?

In general, we don't face this issue but for things like RCU, I do
believe this is the right approach.  The name of the flag is a bit of
misnomer for those cases as it only describes one of the dependencies
of worker pool management.  I don't think it's an actual problem given
that vast majority of the usages are protecting against memory
dependency.

> This scenario can be resolved by using WQ_MEM_RECLAIM and a separate
> workqueue for rcu. But there seems to be a possibility in future if
> any cpu hotplug callbacks use other predefined workqueues which do not
> have WQ_MEM_RECLAIM option.

We want to isolate from this sort of dependencies anyway, especially
how widely and deeply we depend on RCU these days.  Maybe we will
develop a justified case in the future but at least up until now every
case around this issue seems to be something to be fixed on their own.

Thanks.

-- 
tejun

      reply	other threads:[~2018-01-16 16:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <CANaxB-zT+sz=z1FFk5npnwMySdfKCBZDkM+P+=JXDkCXbh=rCw@mail.gmail.com>
2017-11-28 11:35 ` Prateek Sood
2017-12-04  5:14   ` Prateek Sood
2017-12-04 20:22     ` Tejun Heo
2017-12-04 22:58       ` Tejun Heo
2017-12-04 23:01         ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-12-08  9:40           ` Prateek Sood
2017-12-08 11:45             ` Prateek Sood
2017-12-11 15:32               ` Tejun Heo
2017-12-13 14:28                 ` Prateek Sood
2017-12-13 15:40                   ` Tejun Heo
2017-12-15  8:54                     ` Prateek Sood
2017-12-15 13:22                       ` Tejun Heo
2017-12-15 19:06                         ` Prateek Sood
2017-12-19  7:26                           ` [PATCH] cgroup: Fix deadlock in cpu hotplug path Prateek Sood
2017-12-19 13:39                             ` Tejun Heo
2017-12-11 15:20           ` [PATCH] cgroup/cpuset: fix circular locking dependency Tejun Heo
2017-12-13  7:50             ` Prateek Sood
2017-12-13 16:06               ` Tejun Heo
2017-12-15 19:04                 ` Prateek Sood
2017-12-28 20:37                 ` Prateek Sood
2018-01-02 16:16                   ` Tejun Heo
2018-01-02 17:44                     ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-01-02 18:01                       ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-01-08 12:28                         ` Tejun Heo
2018-01-08 13:47                           ` [PATCH wq/for-4.16 1/2] workqueue: separate out init_rescuer() Tejun Heo
2018-01-08 13:47                             ` [PATCH wq/for-4.16 2/2] workqueue: allow WQ_MEM_RECLAIM on early init workqueues Tejun Heo
2018-01-08 22:52                           ` [PATCH] cgroup/cpuset: fix circular locking dependency Paul E. McKenney
2018-01-09  0:31                             ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-01-09  3:42                               ` Tejun Heo
2018-01-09  4:20                                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-01-09 13:44                                   ` Tejun Heo
2018-01-09 15:21                                     ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-01-09 15:37                                       ` Tejun Heo
2018-01-09 16:00                                         ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-01-10 20:08                                           ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-01-10 21:41                                             ` Tejun Heo
2018-01-10 22:10                                               ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-01-15 12:02                     ` Prateek Sood
2018-01-16 16:27                       ` Tejun Heo [this message]

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