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From: Dominik Brodowski <linux@dominikbrodowski.net>
To: David Woodhouse <dwmw@amazon.co.uk>
Cc: arjan@linux.intel.com, tglx@linutronix.de, karahmed@amazon.de,
	x86@kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	tim.c.chen@linux.intel.com, bp@alien8.de, peterz@infradead.org,
	pbonzini@redhat.com, ak@linux.intel.com,
	torvalds@linux-foundation.org, gregkh@linux-foundation.org,
	mingo@kernel.org, luto@kernel.org, jcm@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH] x86/speculation: Use Indirect Branch Prediction Barrier in context switch
Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2018 13:28:03 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180129122803.GA23664@isilmar-4.linta.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1517225608-9153-1-git-send-email-dwmw@amazon.co.uk>

On Mon, Jan 29, 2018 at 11:33:28AM +0000, David Woodhouse wrote:
> From: Tim Chen <tim.c.chen@linux.intel.com>
> 
> Flush indirect branches when switching into a process that marked itself
> non dumpable. This protects high value processes like gpg better,
> without having too high performance overhead.
> 
> If done naïvely, we could switch to a kernel idle thread and then back
> to the original process, such as:
> 
>     process A -> idle -> process A
> 
> In such scenario, we do not have to do IBPB here even though the process
> is non-dumpable, as we are switching back to the same process after a
> hiatus.
> 
> To avoid the redundant IBPB, which is expensive, we track the last mm
> user context ID. The cost is to have an extra u64 mm context id to track
> the last mm we were using before switching to the init_mm used by idle.
> Avoiding the extra IBPB is probably worth the extra memory for this
> common scenario.
> 
> For those cases where tlb_defer_switch_to_init_mm() returns true (non
> PCID), lazy tlb will defer switch to init_mm, so we will not be changing
> the mm for the process A -> idle -> process A switch. So IBPB will be
> skipped for this case.
> 
> Thanks to the reviewers and Andy Lutomirski for the suggestion of
> using ctx_id which got rid of the problem of mm pointer recycling.
> 
> Signed-off-by: Tim Chen <tim.c.chen@linux.intel.com>
> Signed-off-by: David Woodhouse <dwmw@amazon.co.uk>
> ---
> How close are we to done with bikeshedding this one?... 

The commit message is much more about the A->idle-> improvement than
on the basic design decisions to limit this to non-dumpable processes. And
that still seems to be under discussion (see, for example, Jon Masters
message of today, https://lkml.org/lkml/2018/1/29/34 ). So this design
choice should, at least, be more explicit (if not tunable...).

> @@ -219,6 +220,25 @@ void switch_mm_irqs_off(struct mm_struct *prev, struct mm_struct *next,
>  	} else {
>  		u16 new_asid;
>  		bool need_flush;
> +		u64 last_ctx_id = this_cpu_read(cpu_tlbstate.last_ctx_id);
> +
> +		/*
> +		 * Avoid user/user BTB poisoning by flushing the branch
> +		 * predictor when switching between processes. This stops
> +		 * one process from doing Spectre-v2 attacks on another.
> +		 *
> +                 * As an optimization, flush indirect branches only when
> +                 * switching into processes that disable dumping.
> +                 *
> +                 * This will not flush branches when switching into kernel
> +		 * threads. It will also not flush if we switch to idle

Whitespace damage. And maybe add ", as the kernel depends on retpoline
protection instead" after "threads" here -- I think that was the reason why
you think kernel threads are safe; or did I misunderstand you?

> +		 * thread and back to the same process. It will flush if we
> +		 * switch to a different non-dumpable process.

"process, as that gives additional protection to high value processes like
gpg. Other processes are left unprotected here to reduce the overhead of the
barrier [... maybe add some rationale here ...]"

Thanks,
	Dominik

  reply	other threads:[~2018-01-29 12:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-01-29 11:33 David Woodhouse
2018-01-29 12:28 ` Dominik Brodowski [this message]
2018-01-29 12:44   ` David Woodhouse
2018-01-29 13:56     ` Dominik Brodowski
2018-01-29 22:04 David Woodhouse
2018-01-30 17:48 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2018-01-30 21:23   ` Tim Chen
2018-01-30 22:00     ` Borislav Petkov
2018-01-30 22:21       ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-01-30 22:55         ` Borislav Petkov
2018-01-31  3:59     ` Josh Poimboeuf
2018-01-31 23:25       ` Tim Chen
2018-01-30 20:38 ` Borislav Petkov
2018-01-30 21:03   ` Tim Chen
2018-01-30 21:57     ` Borislav Petkov
2018-01-30 22:26       ` Tim Chen
2018-01-30 22:43         ` Borislav Petkov
2018-01-31  0:25           ` Tim Chen
2018-01-31  0:41             ` Borislav Petkov

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