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From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Will Deacon <will.deacon@arm.com>,
	Luc Maranget <luc.maranget@inria.fr>,
	Daniel Lustig <dlustig@nvidia.com>,
	"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Andrea Parri <parri.andrea@gmail.com>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Palmer Dabbelt <palmer@sifive.com>, Albert Ou <albert@sifive.com>,
	Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>,
	Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@gmail.com>,
	Nicholas Piggin <npiggin@gmail.com>,
	David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>,
	Jade Alglave <j.alglave@ucl.ac.uk>,
	Akira Yokosawa <akiyks@gmail.com>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
	linux-riscv@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH] riscv/locking: Strengthen spin_lock() and spin_unlock()
Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2018 14:00:59 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180306130059.GE25201@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CA+55aFyT=+8m0mmpeegP8LOVtkCYv3O2vyO-ZcQdLAR=s309jg@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Feb 26, 2018 at 09:00:43AM -0800, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 26, 2018 at 8:24 AM, Will Deacon <will.deacon@arm.com> wrote:
> >
> > Strictly speaking, that's not what we've got implemented on arm64: only
> > the read part of the RmW has Acquire semantics, but there is a total
> > order on the lock/unlock operations for the lock.
> 
> Hmm.
> 
> I thought we had exactly that bug on some architecture with the queued
> spinlocks, and people decided it was wrong.

So ARM64 and Power have the acquire-on-load only thing, but qspinlock
has it per construction on anything that allowes reordering stores.

Given that unlock/lock are ordered, which covers about 99% of the users
out there, and fixing the issue would make things significantly slower
on the weak architectures we let it be.

But yes, its a pesky detail.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2018-03-06 13:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-02-22 12:19 Andrea Parri
2018-02-22 12:44 ` Andrea Parri
2018-02-22 13:40 ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-02-22 14:12   ` Andrea Parri
2018-02-22 17:27     ` Daniel Lustig
2018-02-22 18:13       ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-02-22 18:27         ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-02-22 19:47           ` Daniel Lustig
2018-02-23 11:16             ` Andrea Parri
2018-02-26 10:39             ` Will Deacon
2018-02-26 14:21             ` Luc Maranget
2018-02-26 16:06               ` Linus Torvalds
2018-02-26 16:24                 ` Will Deacon
2018-02-26 17:00                   ` Linus Torvalds
2018-02-26 17:10                     ` Will Deacon
2018-03-06 13:00                     ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2018-02-27  5:06                   ` Boqun Feng
2018-02-27 10:16                     ` Boqun Feng
2018-03-01 15:11             ` Andrea Parri
2018-03-01 21:54               ` Palmer Dabbelt
2018-03-01 22:21                 ` Daniel Lustig
2018-02-22 20:02           ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-02-22 18:21       ` Peter Zijlstra

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