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From: Dan Carpenter <dan.carpenter@oracle.com>
To: NeilBrown <neil@brown.name>
Cc: devel@driverdev.osuosl.org,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	lkml <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	John Crispin <john@phrozen.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/13] staging: add drivers to support Mediatek mt7621 in gnubee-pc1
Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2018 10:42:11 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180316074211.aa3xjbiypzetsrgq@mwanda> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87po45ayz8.fsf@notabene.neil.brown.name>

On Fri, Mar 16, 2018 at 07:02:51AM +1100, NeilBrown wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 15 2018, Dan Carpenter wrote:
> 
> > On Thu, Mar 15, 2018 at 10:04:33PM +1100, NeilBrown wrote:
> >> On Thu, Mar 15 2018, Dan Carpenter wrote:
> >> 
> >> > This all seems fine.  Generally the requirements for staging are that it
> >> > has a TODO, someone to work on it, and it doesn't break the build.  But
> >> > some of the patches don't have commit message and those are required and
> >> > some of the commit messages are just the changes you have made not don't
> >> > describe the actual code...
> >> 
> >> Thanks for having a look.
> >> It seems odd to require detailed commit messages, when we don't require
> >> the same level of quality in the code.
> >> Naturally when the driver is moved out of staging a properly detailed
> >> commit message should be added, but is that needed on the way in to
> >> staging?  At this stage I don't know much more than is already there.
> >> After I've cleaned up the code I probably will.
> >> 
> >> For patch 01/13 you asked "what kind of device this is".  The subject
> >> line makes it clear that it is a "pcie driver".  What extra detail did
> >> you want?  Would it be sufficient to just copy the subject line so that
> >> it appears twice in the commit message?
> >> 
> >
> > Ah...  Sorry.  It's literally a pcie driver.  For some reason I thought
> > it was a device that ran over pcie.
> >
> > We don't require a detailed changelog, but you have to put something...
> > Probably just restating the subject and adding that it's for the gnubee1
> > is fine.
> 
> I'll resend sometime next week with more words.  However could you
> please clarify a couple of things for me?
> 
> 1/ Why do you (sometimes) call the commit message a "change log".  When
>   I see the term "change log" in the context of a patch, my first
>   thought is that it it means a log of changes that have been made to
>   the patch - typically through the review cycle.  But that isn't what
>   you mean.  This has confused me a couple of times.
> 

Sorry.  Yeah.  I do use them interchangeably which is probably not the
right thing.


> 2/ Why don't you consider the first line of the commit message to be
>    part of the commit message?  Why is duplication required?
>    (You said "some of the patches don't have commit message[s]",
>    which isn't true, though some of the messages are only one line).
> 

First of all, you're a writer.  If you don't like to do things then you
need to keep those skills hidden away.  I never tell anyone that I know
how to program in COBOL (True story.  COBOL is great for formatting text
on dot matrix printers and for doing decimal math.)

This is a hard requirement from Greg, not something that specific to
*me* although I do agree with the requirement as well.  The idea of
forcing everyone to write a commit message is that we're hoping they
take a little time to tell a story about what the patch is.  Sometimes
they're not English majors or whatever and they just restate the subject
and whatever, that's fine.

The first patch I reviewed in this series was:
[PATCH 03/13] staging: mt7621-gpio: ralink: add mt7621 gpio controller
A good commit message might be:

    This adds Mediatek GPIO support for the mt7621 chip.  It's used on
    the Gnubee NAS hardware and a couple other MIPS SoCs.  This code
    originally came from the OpenWRT project.

That information was all there in the patch 0 commit but that gets
dropped.  It's feels a bit weird to put that boilerplate information in
every commit, but it means that it's there when we do a git log on the
file so I think it's a good idea.

Also, and this is my fault not yours of course, but my email client is
all text and looks exactly like marc.info:
https://marc.info/?l=linux-driver-devel&m=152105965413484&w=2

It's hard to see the subject so I normally don't even read it when I'm
looking at patches.

regards,
dan carpenter

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Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-03-14 20:22 NeilBrown
2018-03-14 20:22 ` [PATCH 05/13] staging: mt7621-dma: ralink: add rt2880 dma engine NeilBrown
2018-03-14 20:22 ` [PATCH 04/13] staging: mt7621-spi: add mt7621 support NeilBrown
2018-03-14 20:22 ` [PATCH 01/13] staging: mt7621-pci: MIPS/ralink: add MT7621 pcie driver NeilBrown
2018-03-15 10:43   ` Dan Carpenter
2018-03-14 20:22 ` [PATCH 06/13] staging: mt7621-mmc: MIPS: ralink: add sdhci for mt7620a SoC NeilBrown
2018-03-14 20:22 ` [PATCH 03/13] staging: mt7621-gpio: ralink: add mt7621 gpio controller NeilBrown
2018-03-14 20:22 ` [PATCH 02/13] staging: mt7621-pinctrl: ralink: add pinctrl driver NeilBrown
2018-03-14 20:22 ` [PATCH 08/13] staging: mt7621-eth: add the drivers core files NeilBrown
2018-03-14 20:22 ` [PATCH 10/13] staging: mt7621-eth: add mdio support for mt762X family NeilBrown
2018-03-14 20:22 ` [PATCH 09/13] staging: mt7621-eth: add gigabit switch driver (GSW) NeilBrown
2018-03-14 20:22 ` [PATCH 07/13] staging: mt7621-eth: Document ralink/mediatek SoC ethernet binding NeilBrown
2018-03-14 20:22 ` [PATCH 13/13] staging: mt7621-dts: add dts files NeilBrown
2018-03-14 20:22 ` [PATCH 11/13] staging: mt7621-eth: add support for mt7621 NeilBrown
2018-03-14 20:22 ` [PATCH 12/13] staging: mt7621-eth: mediatek: add Kconfig and Makefile NeilBrown
2018-03-14 23:45 ` [PATCH 00/13] staging: add drivers to support Mediatek mt7621 in gnubee-pc1 NeilBrown
2018-03-15 10:48 ` Dan Carpenter
2018-03-15 11:04   ` NeilBrown
2018-03-15 11:24     ` Dan Carpenter
2018-03-15 20:02       ` NeilBrown
2018-03-16  7:42         ` Dan Carpenter [this message]
2018-03-15 11:07   ` John Crispin
2018-03-15 11:29     ` Dan Carpenter
2018-03-15 20:12     ` NeilBrown
2018-03-15 20:21       ` John Crispin
2018-03-15 22:58         ` NeilBrown

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