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From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Quentin Perret <quentin.perret@arm.com>
Cc: rjw@rjwysocki.net, gregkh@linuxfoundation.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-pm@vger.kernel.org,
	mingo@redhat.com, dietmar.eggemann@arm.com,
	morten.rasmussen@arm.com, chris.redpath@arm.com,
	patrick.bellasi@arm.com, valentin.schneider@arm.com,
	vincent.guittot@linaro.org, thara.gopinath@linaro.org,
	viresh.kumar@linaro.org, tkjos@google.com, joelaf@google.com,
	smuckle@google.com, adharmap@quicinc.com, skannan@quicinc.com,
	pkondeti@codeaurora.org, juri.lelli@redhat.com,
	edubezval@gmail.com, srinivas.pandruvada@linux.intel.com,
	currojerez@riseup.net, javi.merino@kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v3 05/10] sched/topology: Reference the Energy Model of CPUs when available
Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2018 18:20:42 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180619162042.GT2458@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180619132449.GA17720@e108498-lin.cambridge.arm.com>

On Tue, Jun 19, 2018 at 02:24:49PM +0100, Quentin Perret wrote:
> On Tuesday 19 Jun 2018 at 14:26:32 (+0200), Peter Zijlstra wrote:

> > I'm confused by this patch,... what does it do? Why is em_cpu_get()
> > (after you fix it) not sufficient?
> 
> Hmm, so maybe the confusing part is that this patch does two things:
> 1. it checks all conditions for starting EAS are met
>   (SD_ASYM_CPUCAPACITY is set, the EM covers all online CPUs, the EM
>   isn't too complex to be used during wakeup);
> 2. it builds a list of frequency domains for the private use of the
>    scheduler in latency sensitive code paths,
  3. and sets the static key

> So I guess your question is more about 2. It is nice to have a list of
> frequency domains because that makes iteration over frequency domains
> in the wake-up path very easy, and efficient (for_each_freq_domain() is
> used in find_energy_efficient_cpu() and compute_energy(), patches 07 and
> 09/10).
> And also, by making the scheduler maintain that list, we can be more
> hotplug-aware. If you hotplug out all CPUs of a freq domain, the scheduler
> can remove it from its list and have one less element to iterate against.
> The idea was tp remove the unused things on hotplug, just like for
> sched domains.
> 
> I think that not having that list would mean to play with cpumasks in
> find_energy_efficient_cpu() and in compute_energy() to keep track of the
> CPUs we have visited and stuff like that. That's doable but probably more
> complex, and not more efficient, I think.
> 
> Is the overall idea any clearer ?

Right, so I would not do that many things at once. Also be more explicit
about what data structure, and why.

That said, I think the whole for_each_freq_domain() thing as done is
broken. You've completely ignored the arguments to
partition_sched_domains(). What happens if you create partitions right
along the frequency domains?

So you really want an argument to for_each_freq_domain() to indicate
who's frequency domains you want to iterate. And then I think it's
easiest if you hook into build_sched_domains() instead, because you
really want a list per root_domain I suspect (and an empty list if there
is but one entry on).

  reply	other threads:[~2018-06-19 16:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 80+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-05-21 14:24 [RFC PATCH v3 00/10] Energy Aware Scheduling Quentin Perret
2018-05-21 14:24 ` [RFC PATCH v3 01/10] sched: Relocate arch_scale_cpu_capacity Quentin Perret
2018-05-21 14:24 ` [RFC PATCH v3 02/10] sched/cpufreq: Factor out utilization to frequency mapping Quentin Perret
2018-05-21 14:24 ` [RFC PATCH v3 03/10] PM: Introduce an Energy Model management framework Quentin Perret
2018-06-06 13:12   ` Dietmar Eggemann
2018-06-06 14:37     ` Quentin Perret
2018-06-06 15:20       ` Juri Lelli
2018-06-06 15:29         ` Quentin Perret
2018-06-06 16:26           ` Quentin Perret
2018-06-07 15:58             ` Dietmar Eggemann
2018-06-08 13:39             ` Javi Merino
2018-06-08 15:47               ` Quentin Perret
2018-06-09  8:24                 ` Javi Merino
2018-06-06 16:47   ` Juri Lelli
2018-06-06 16:59     ` Quentin Perret
2018-06-07 14:44   ` Juri Lelli
2018-06-07 15:19     ` Quentin Perret
2018-06-07 15:55       ` Dietmar Eggemann
2018-06-08  8:25         ` Quentin Perret
2018-06-08  9:36           ` Juri Lelli
2018-06-08 10:31             ` Quentin Perret
2018-06-08 12:39           ` Dietmar Eggemann
2018-06-08 13:11             ` Quentin Perret
2018-06-08 16:39               ` Dietmar Eggemann
2018-06-08 17:02                 ` Quentin Perret
2018-06-07 16:04       ` Juri Lelli
2018-06-07 17:31         ` Quentin Perret
2018-06-09  8:13         ` Javi Merino
2018-06-19 11:07   ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-06-19 12:35     ` Quentin Perret
2018-06-19 11:31   ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-06-19 12:40     ` Quentin Perret
2018-06-19 11:34   ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-06-19 12:58     ` Quentin Perret
2018-06-19 13:23       ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-06-19 13:38         ` Quentin Perret
2018-06-19 14:16           ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-06-19 14:21             ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-06-19 14:30               ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-06-19 14:23             ` Quentin Perret
2018-05-21 14:24 ` [RFC PATCH v3 04/10] PM / EM: Expose the Energy Model in sysfs Quentin Perret
2018-06-19 12:16   ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-06-19 13:06     ` Quentin Perret
2018-05-21 14:25 ` [RFC PATCH v3 05/10] sched/topology: Reference the Energy Model of CPUs when available Quentin Perret
2018-06-07 14:44   ` Juri Lelli
2018-06-07 16:02     ` Quentin Perret
2018-06-07 16:29       ` Juri Lelli
2018-06-07 17:26         ` Quentin Perret
2018-06-19 12:26   ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-06-19 13:24     ` Quentin Perret
2018-06-19 16:20       ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2018-06-19 17:13         ` Quentin Perret
2018-06-19 18:42           ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-06-20  7:58             ` Quentin Perret
2018-05-21 14:25 ` [RFC PATCH v3 06/10] sched: Add over-utilization/tipping point indicator Quentin Perret
2018-06-19  7:01   ` Pavan Kondeti
2018-06-19 10:26     ` Dietmar Eggemann
2018-05-21 14:25 ` [RFC PATCH v3 07/10] sched/fair: Introduce an energy estimation helper function Quentin Perret
2018-06-08 10:30   ` Juri Lelli
2018-06-19  9:51   ` Pavan Kondeti
2018-06-19  9:53     ` Quentin Perret
2018-05-21 14:25 ` [RFC PATCH v3 08/10] sched: Lowest energy aware balancing sched_domain level pointer Quentin Perret
2018-05-21 14:25 ` [RFC PATCH v3 09/10] sched/fair: Select an energy-efficient CPU on task wake-up Quentin Perret
2018-06-08 10:24   ` Juri Lelli
2018-06-08 11:19     ` Quentin Perret
2018-06-08 11:59       ` Juri Lelli
2018-06-08 16:26         ` Quentin Perret
2018-06-19  5:06   ` Pavan Kondeti
2018-06-19  7:57     ` Quentin Perret
2018-06-19  8:41       ` Pavan Kondeti
2018-05-21 14:25 ` [RFC PATCH v3 10/10] arch_topology: Start Energy Aware Scheduling Quentin Perret
2018-06-19  9:18   ` Pavan Kondeti
2018-06-19  9:40     ` Quentin Perret
2018-06-19  9:47       ` Juri Lelli
2018-06-19 10:02         ` Quentin Perret
2018-06-19 10:19           ` Juri Lelli
2018-06-19 10:25             ` Quentin Perret
2018-06-19 10:31               ` Juri Lelli
2018-06-19 10:49                 ` Quentin Perret
2018-06-01  9:29 ` [RFC PATCH v3 00/10] " Quentin Perret

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