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From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
Cc: Waiman Long <longman@redhat.com>,
	John Stultz <john.stultz@linaro.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Stephen Boyd <sboyd@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] clocksource: Warn if too many missing ticks are detected
Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2018 11:17:31 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180919091731.GY24124@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.21.1809190948470.1468@nanos.tec.linutronix.de>

On Wed, Sep 19, 2018 at 09:53:47AM +0200, Thomas Gleixner wrote:
> On Tue, 18 Sep 2018, Waiman Long wrote:
> 
> > The clocksource watchdog, when running, is scheduled on all the CPUs in
> > the system sequentially on a round-robin fashion with a period of 0.5s.
> > A bug in the 4.18 kernel is causing missing ticks when nohz_full
> > is specified. Under some circumstances, this causes the watchdog to
> > incorrectly state that the TSC is unstable because of counter overflow
> > in the hpet watchdog clock source after a few minutes delay.
> > 
> > That particular bug is fixed by the 4.19 commit 7059b36636beab ("sched:
> > idle: Avoid retaining the tick when it has been stopped"). To make it
> > easier to catch this kind of bug in the future, a check is added to see
> > if there is too much delay in the invocation of the watchdog callback
> > and print a warning once if it happens.
> 
> Second thoughts on this. Putting the check into the clocksource watchdog is
> the wrong place as it's just checking at a place where the symptom
> shows. What about putting it right to the source, i.e. in the timer wheel
> as it does not depend on the clocksource watchdog being active. The
> clocksource watchdog triggering is just one of the symptoms, but in general
> timers being massively late is not a good thing.

Just make sure to think of the virt case; virt can cause all kind of
'fun' lateness.

  reply	other threads:[~2018-09-19  9:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 5+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-09-19  1:19 Waiman Long
2018-09-19  7:53 ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-09-19  9:17   ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2018-09-19 16:32     ` Waiman Long
2018-09-24 15:35   ` Waiman Long

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