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From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Will Deacon <will.deacon@arm.com>
Cc: mingo@kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	longman@redhat.com, andrea.parri@amarulasolutions.com,
	tglx@linutronix.de
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH 3/3] locking/qspinlock: Optimize for x86
Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2018 22:00:28 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20181001200028.GO3439@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20181001171700.GC13918@arm.com>

On Mon, Oct 01, 2018 at 06:17:00PM +0100, Will Deacon wrote:
> Hi Peter,
> 
> Thanks for chewing up my afternoon ;)

I'll get you a beer in EDI ;-)

> On Wed, Sep 26, 2018 at 01:01:20PM +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote:

> >  /**
> > + * set_pending_fetch_acquire - fetch the whole lock value and set pending and locked
> > + * @lock : Pointer to queued spinlock structure
> > + * Return: The previous lock value
> > + *
> > + * *,*,* -> *,1,*
> > + */
> > +static __always_inline u32 set_pending_fetch_acquire(struct qspinlock *lock)
> > +{
> > +#if defined(_Q_NO_FETCH_OR) && _Q_PENDING_BITS == 8
> > +	u32 val;
> > +
> > +	/*
> > +	 * For the !LL/SC archs that do not have a native atomic_fetch_or
> > +	 * but do have a native xchg (x86) we can do trickery and avoid the
> > +	 * cmpxchg-loop based fetch-or to improve determinism.
> > +	 *
> > +	 * We first xchg the pending byte to set PENDING, and then issue a load
> > +	 * for the rest of the word and mask out the pending byte to compute a
> > +	 * 'full' value.
> > +	 */
> > +	val = xchg_relaxed(&lock->pending, 1) << _Q_PENDING_OFFSET;
> 
> If we make this an xchg_acquire(), can we drop the smp_mb__after_atomic()
> and use a plain atomic_read() to get the rest of the word? 

I did consider that; but I confused myself so many times I stuck with
this one. Primarily because on x86 it doesn't matter one way or the
other and smp_mb() are 'easier' to reason about.

> But actually,
> consider this scenario with your patch:
> 
> 1. CPU0 sees a locked val, and is about to do your xchg_relaxed() to set
>    pending.
> 
> 2. CPU1 comes in and sets pending, spins on locked
> 
> 3. CPU2 sees a pending and locked val, and is about to enter the head of
>    the waitqueue (i.e. it's right before xchg_tail()).
> 
> 4. The locked holder unlock()s, CPU1 takes the lock() and then unlock()s
>    it, so pending and locked are now 0.
> 
> 5. CPU0 sets pending and reads back zeroes for the other fields
> 
> 6. CPU0 clears pending and sets locked -- it now has the lock
> 
> 7. CPU2 updates tail, sees it's at the head of the waitqueue and spins
>    for locked and pending to go clear. However, it reads a stale value
>    from step (4) and attempts the atomic_try_cmpxchg() to take the lock.
> 
> 8. CPU2 will fail the cmpxchg(), but then go ahead and set locked. At this
>    point we're hosed, because both CPU2 and CPU0 have the lock.

Let me draw a picture of that..


  CPU0		CPU1		CPU2		CPU3

0)						lock
						  trylock -> (0,0,1)
1)lock
    trylock /* fail */

2)		lock
		  trylock /* fail */
		  tas-pending -> (0,1,1)
		  wait-locked

3)				lock
				  trylock /* fail */
				  tas-pending /* fail */

4)						unlock -> (0,1,0)
		  clr_pnd_set_lck -> (0,0,1)
		  unlock -> (0,0,0)

5)  tas-pending -> (0,1,0)
    read-val -> (0,1,0)
6)  clr_pnd_set_lck -> (0,0,1)
7)				  xchg_tail -> (n,0,1)
				  load_acquire <- (n,0,0) (from-4)
8)				  cmpxchg /* fail */
				  set_locked()

> Is there something I'm missing that means this can't happen? I suppose
> cacheline granularity ends up giving serialisation between (4) and (7),
> but I'd *much* prefer not to rely on that because it feels horribly
> fragile.

Well, on x86 atomics are fully ordered, so the xchg_tail() does in
fact have smp_mb() in and that should order it sufficient for that not
to happen I think.

But in general, yes ick. Alternatively, making xchg_tail an ACQUIRE
doesn't seem too far out..

> Another idea I was playing with was adding test_and_set_bit_acquire()
> for this, because x86 has an instruction for that, right?

LOCK BTS, yes. So it can do a full 32bit RmW, but it cannot return the
old value of the word, just the old bit (in CF).

I suppose you get rid of the whole mixed size thing, but you still have
the whole two instruction thing.

> > +	/*
> > +	 * Ensures the tail load happens after the xchg().
> > +	 *
> > +	 *	   lock  unlock    (a)
> > +	 *   xchg ---------------.
> > +	 *    (b)  lock  unlock  +----- fetch_or
> > +	 *   load ---------------'
> > +	 *	   lock  unlock    (c)
> > +	 *
> 
> I failed miserably at parsing this comment :(
> 
> I think the main issue is that I don't understand how to read the little
> diagram you've got.

Where fetch_or() is indivisible and has happens-before (a) and
happens-after (c), the new thing is in fact divisible and has
happens-in-between (b).

Of the happens-in-between (b), we can either get a new concurrent
locker, or make progress of an extant concurrent locker because an
unlock happened.

But the rest of the text might indeed be very confused. I think I wrote
the bulk of that when I was in fact doing a xchg16 on locked_pending,
but that's fundamentally broken. I did edit it afterwards, but that
might have just made it worse.

  reply	other threads:[~2018-10-01 20:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-09-26 11:01 [RFC][PATCH 0/3] locking/qspinlock: Improve determinism " Peter Zijlstra
2018-09-26 11:01 ` [RFC][PATCH 1/3] locking/qspinlock: Re-order code Peter Zijlstra
2018-10-01 17:17   ` Will Deacon
2018-09-26 11:01 ` [RFC][PATCH 2/3] locking/qspinlock: Rework some comments Peter Zijlstra
2018-10-01 17:17   ` Will Deacon
2018-10-01 19:10     ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-10-02 13:20       ` Will Deacon
2018-10-02 13:43         ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-09-26 11:01 ` [RFC][PATCH 3/3] locking/qspinlock: Optimize for x86 Peter Zijlstra
2018-09-26 16:30   ` Waiman Long
2018-09-26 17:54     ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-09-27  7:29       ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-09-26 20:52   ` Andrea Parri
2018-09-27  7:17     ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-09-27  7:47       ` Andrea Parri
2018-09-27  7:59         ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-09-27  8:13           ` Andrea Parri
2018-09-27  8:57             ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-09-27 12:16   ` David Laight
2018-10-01 17:17   ` Will Deacon
2018-10-01 20:00     ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2018-10-02 13:19       ` Will Deacon
2018-10-02 14:14         ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-10-02 12:31     ` Andrea Parri
2018-10-02 13:22       ` Will Deacon
2018-10-02 13:44         ` Andrea Parri
2018-09-26 15:01 ` [RFC][PATCH 0/3] locking/qspinlock: Improve determinism " Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2018-09-26 15:08   ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-09-26 15:38     ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2018-09-26 16:20 ` Waiman Long
2018-09-26 17:51   ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-09-26 23:21     ` Waiman Long

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