From: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@redhat.com>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>, Peter Anvin <hpa@zytor.com>,
Julien Thierry <julien.thierry@arm.com>,
Will Deacon <will.deacon@arm.com>,
Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
James Morse <james.morse@arm.com>,
valentin.schneider@arm.com, Brian Gerst <brgerst@gmail.com>,
Andrew Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>,
Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
Denys Vlasenko <dvlasenk@redhat.com>,
Linux List Kernel Mailing <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Dmitry Vyukov <dvyukov@google.com>,
Slavomir Kaslev <kaslevs@vmware.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/20] objtool: UACCESS validation v3
Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2019 13:18:41 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190307131841.3b5d9e00@oasis.local.home> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAHk-=wi_vuD9fKk36=_DNG9=+S9rbTRu2FTFe9tECunC8oOtfg@mail.gmail.com>
On Thu, 7 Mar 2019 09:45:35 -0800
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org> wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 7, 2019 at 9:38 AM Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> wrote:
> >
> > Also; it seems to me that something PT, or maybe even simply:
> >
> > perf -e branches -e branch-misses
> >
> > would get you similar or sufficient information.
>
> Yeah, I'm not really seeing a lot of upside to PROFILE_ALL_BRANCHES.
>
> Particularly since it doesn't actually profile all branches at all. It
> only basically profiles "if ()" statements, which obviously misses
> loops etc, but then also _does_ hit things where people turned loops
> into "if (unlikely()) loop()", which happens in (for example)
> low-level locking code etc that often has a fast-case "first try"
> thing followed by a slow-case "ok, let's loop for it" thing.
>
> So I think PROFILE_ALL_BRANCHES tends to have very random coverage.
> I'd love to get rid of it, because it seems so random.
>
As Josh said, I run it once a year on two production (real use)
machines for 2 to 4 weeks and collect the data to see if there are
places that can be optimized better.
I currently have one of my engineers looking at the data and may be
sending patches soon. It's basically an entry level way to get into
kernel development. Note, no patch will be sent just because of the
data from the profiling. The task is to look at and understand the
code, and see if it can be optimized (with likely/unlikely or flow
changes). It's a way to get a better understanding of the kernel in
various locations. It is by no means "profiler said this, lets change
it." All changes must be rational, and make sense. The profiler is only
used to help find those places.
The data that was run at the end of January can be found here:
http://rostedt.homelinux.com/branches/mammoth-branches-2019/
http://rostedt.homelinux.com/branches/gandalf-branches-2019/
-- Steve
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2019-03-07 18:18 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 100+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2019-03-07 11:45 Peter Zijlstra
2019-03-07 11:45 ` [PATCH 01/20] x86/ia32: Fix ia32_restore_sigcontext AC leak Peter Zijlstra
2019-03-07 11:45 ` [PATCH 02/20] i915,uaccess: Fix redundant CLAC Peter Zijlstra
2019-03-07 11:45 ` [PATCH 03/20] x86/uaccess: Move copy_user_handle_tail into asm Peter Zijlstra
2019-03-08 18:53 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2019-03-08 19:48 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-03-08 19:53 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2019-03-10 13:22 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-03-07 11:45 ` [PATCH 04/20] x86/uaccess: Fix up the fixup Peter Zijlstra
2019-03-07 11:45 ` [PATCH 05/20] x86/uaccess/xen: Suppress SMAP warnings Peter Zijlstra
2019-03-07 12:22 ` Juergen Gross
2019-03-07 12:32 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-03-07 12:36 ` Juergen Gross
2019-03-08 19:00 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2019-03-08 19:03 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2019-03-10 13:19 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-03-11 17:59 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2019-03-08 19:50 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-03-07 11:45 ` [PATCH 06/20] x86/uaccess: Always inline user_access_begin() Peter Zijlstra
2019-03-07 11:45 ` [PATCH 07/20] x86/uaccess: Always inline force_valid_ss() Peter Zijlstra
2019-03-07 13:50 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-03-07 18:05 ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-03-07 18:59 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-03-07 19:06 ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-03-07 11:45 ` [PATCH 08/20] x86/uaccess: Introduce user_access_{save,restore}() Peter Zijlstra
2019-03-07 11:45 ` [PATCH 09/20] x86/uaccess,kasan: Fix KASAN vs SMAP Peter Zijlstra
2019-03-07 11:45 ` [PATCH 10/20] x86/uaccess,ubsan: Fix UBSAN " Peter Zijlstra
2019-03-07 11:45 ` [PATCH 11/20] x86/uaccess,ftrace: Fix ftrace_likely_update() " Peter Zijlstra
2019-03-07 11:45 ` [PATCH 12/20] objtool: Set insn->func for alternatives Peter Zijlstra
2019-03-08 19:16 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2019-03-08 19:51 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-03-07 11:45 ` [PATCH 13/20] objtool: Hande function aliases Peter Zijlstra
2019-03-08 19:23 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2019-03-08 19:52 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-03-08 20:00 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2019-03-07 11:45 ` [PATCH 14/20] objtool: Rewrite add_ignores() Peter Zijlstra
2019-03-08 19:29 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2019-03-07 11:45 ` [PATCH 15/20] objtool: Add --backtrace support Peter Zijlstra
2019-03-08 19:33 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2019-03-07 11:45 ` [PATCH 16/20] objtool: Rewrite alt->skip_orig Peter Zijlstra
2019-03-08 20:15 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2019-03-08 21:34 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-03-08 22:27 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2019-03-07 11:45 ` [PATCH 17/20] objtool: Fix sibling call detection Peter Zijlstra
2019-03-08 20:22 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2019-03-07 11:45 ` [PATCH 18/20] objtool: Add UACCESS validation Peter Zijlstra
2019-03-07 16:33 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-03-07 17:10 ` hpa
2019-03-07 17:41 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-03-07 17:54 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-03-07 18:48 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-03-07 18:51 ` hpa
2019-03-07 19:03 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-03-08 15:01 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2019-03-08 15:07 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-03-07 20:23 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-03-07 20:40 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-03-08 15:07 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2019-03-08 15:23 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-03-07 20:15 ` Andrey Ryabinin
2019-03-07 20:33 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-03-07 20:40 ` Andrey Ryabinin
2019-03-07 20:42 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-03-08 21:02 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2019-03-08 21:31 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-03-08 21:54 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2019-03-10 13:10 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-03-11 18:01 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2019-03-07 11:45 ` [PATCH 19/20] objtool: uaccess PUSHF/POPF support Peter Zijlstra
2019-03-08 21:11 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2019-03-10 13:12 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-03-07 11:45 ` [PATCH 20/20] objtool: Add Direction Flag validation Peter Zijlstra
2019-03-08 21:16 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2019-03-08 21:33 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-03-08 21:56 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2019-03-10 13:13 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-03-11 18:00 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2019-03-07 12:03 ` [PATCH 00/20] objtool: UACCESS validation v3 Peter Zijlstra
2019-03-07 12:55 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-03-07 13:13 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-03-07 16:47 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2019-03-07 16:50 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2019-03-07 17:00 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-03-07 17:17 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2019-03-07 17:38 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-03-07 17:45 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-03-07 18:18 ` Steven Rostedt [this message]
2019-03-10 13:16 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-04-19 10:08 ` [PATCH] compiler.h, tracing: Remove CONFIG_PROFILE_ALL_BRANCHES Ingo Molnar
2019-04-19 13:04 ` Steven Rostedt
2019-03-07 17:04 ` [PATCH 00/20] objtool: UACCESS validation v3 hpa
2019-03-07 17:18 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2019-03-07 17:29 ` hpa
2019-03-07 17:45 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2019-03-07 17:48 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-03-07 17:43 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-03-07 17:48 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2019-04-03 8:21 ` [tip:core/objtool] tracing: Improve "if" macro code generation tip-bot for Josh Poimboeuf
2019-03-07 16:31 ` [PATCH 00/20] objtool: UACCESS validation v3 Linus Torvalds
2019-03-07 17:14 ` hpa
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