From: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
To: Joe Perches <joe@perches.com>
Cc: Vincent Whitchurch <vincent.whitchurch@axis.com>,
jbaron@akamai.com, mingo@redhat.com,
Nicolas Boichat <drinkcat@chromium.org>,
kernel@axis.com, corbet@lwn.net, pmladek@suse.com,
sergey.senozhatsky@gmail.com, john.ogness@linutronix.de,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 2/2] dynamic debug: allow printing to trace event
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2020 15:32:03 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200826153203.1a65c35d@oasis.local.home> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <651f7ec449dfb28006bbc0b018d4f6e506bcda80.camel@perches.com>
On Tue, 25 Aug 2020 08:53:25 -0700
Joe Perches <joe@perches.com> wrote:
> > The print buffer is statically allocated and managed using code borrowed
> > from __ftrace_trace_stack() and is limited to 256 bytes (four of these
> > are allocated per CPU to handle the various contexts); anything larger
> > will be truncated.
>
> There is an effort to avoid using trace_printk and the like
> so perhaps this feature should have the same compile time
> guard.
No, this is fine for being in a production kernel. Basically, these are
simply debug printk()s that can also be put into the trace buffer. The
key difference to trace_printk() is that they are an event that needs
to be enabled to write into the buffer.
The problem I'm avoiding with not letting people add trace_printk() is
that trace_printk() should be used when a developer is trying to debug
some code. The *only* trace_printk()s should be the ones that developer
adds (because it only shows what they want to find).
trace_printk()s are enabled by default, and they have a special
switch to disable. But it is an all or nothing switch. They either
enable all of them, or disable all of them. No in between.
Now if we allow trace_printk()s to be scattered through the kernel,
when someone wants to use trace_printk() for their own debugging, and
it is turned on, now the trace buffer is filled with a bunch of "noise"
from all these other trace_printk()s that are scattered around, and the
trace_printk()s that the poor developer added are lost among the sea of
other trace_printk()s, making their trace_printk()s useless.
That is the reason I try hard not letting trace_printk() enter into the
kernel.
-- Steve
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2020-08-26 19:32 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2020-08-25 15:33 [PATCH v3 0/2] Dynamic debug trace support Vincent Whitchurch
2020-08-25 15:33 ` [PATCH v3 1/2] dynamic debug: split enable and printk flags Vincent Whitchurch
2020-08-25 15:33 ` [PATCH v3 2/2] dynamic debug: allow printing to trace event Vincent Whitchurch
2020-08-25 15:53 ` Joe Perches
2020-08-26 19:32 ` Steven Rostedt [this message]
2020-08-26 19:53 ` Joe Perches
2020-09-02 12:17 ` Vincent Whitchurch
2023-12-26 16:57 ` Guilherme G. Piccoli
2023-12-27 8:29 ` Vincent Whitchurch
2023-12-27 13:06 ` Guilherme G. Piccoli
Reply instructions:
You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:
* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
and reply-to-all from there: mbox
Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style
* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
switches of git-send-email(1):
git send-email \
--in-reply-to=20200826153203.1a65c35d@oasis.local.home \
--to=rostedt@goodmis.org \
--cc=corbet@lwn.net \
--cc=drinkcat@chromium.org \
--cc=jbaron@akamai.com \
--cc=joe@perches.com \
--cc=john.ogness@linutronix.de \
--cc=kernel@axis.com \
--cc=linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org \
--cc=mingo@redhat.com \
--cc=pmladek@suse.com \
--cc=sergey.senozhatsky@gmail.com \
--cc=vincent.whitchurch@axis.com \
/path/to/YOUR_REPLY
https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html
* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line
before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox
all inboxes | Powered by JetHome®