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From: Feng Tang <feng.tang@intel.com>
To: Waiman Long <longman@redhat.com>
Cc: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@kernel.org>,
	John Stultz <john.stultz@linaro.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Stephen Boyd <sboyd@kernel.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Cassio Neri <cassio.neri@gmail.com>,
	Linus Walleij <linus.walleij@linaro.org>,
	Frederic Weisbecker <frederic@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/2] clocksource: Avoid incorrect hpet fallback
Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2021 09:53:31 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20211111015331.GA15724@shbuild999.sh.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <551c33a1-25d0-a840-f26b-238bee51d4ec@redhat.com>

On Wed, Nov 10, 2021 at 08:30:10PM -0500, Waiman Long wrote:
> 
> On 11/10/21 20:23, Feng Tang wrote:
> > Hi Waiman, Paul,
> > 
> > On Wed, Nov 10, 2021 at 05:17:30PM -0500, Waiman Long wrote:
> > > It was found that when an x86 system was being stressed by running
> > > various different benchmark suites, the clocksource watchdog might
> > > occasionally mark TSC as unstable and fall back to hpet which will
> > > have a signficant impact on system performance.
> > We've seen similar cases while running 'netperf' and 'lockbus/ioport'
> > cases of 'stress-ng' tool.
> > 
> > In those scenarios, the clocksource used by kernel is tsc, while
> > hpet is used as watchdog. And when the "screwing" happens, we found
> > mostly it's the hpet's 'fault', that when system is under extreme
> > pressure, the read of hpet could take a long time, and even 2
> > consecutive read of hpet will have a big gap (up to 1ms+) in between.
> > So the screw we saw is actually caused by hpet instead of tsc, as
> > tsc read is a lightweight cpu operation
> > 
> > I tried the following patch to detect the screw of watchdog itself,
> > and avoid wrongly judging the tsc to be unstable. It does help in
> > our tests, please help to review.
> > 
> > And one futher idea is to also adding 2 consecutive read of current
> > clocksource, and compare its gap with watchdog's, and skip the check
> > if the watchdog's is bigger.
> 
> That is what I found too. And I also did a 2nd watchdog read to compare the
> consecutive delay versus half the threshold and skip the test if it exceeds
> it. My patch is actually similar in concept to what your patch does.
 
Aha, yes, I missed that.

I just got to office, and saw the disucssion around 0/2 patch and replied,
without going through the patches, sorry about that.

0day reported some cases about stress-ng testing, and we are still testing
differenct cases we've seen.

Thanks,
Feng

> Cheers,
> Longman

  reply	other threads:[~2021-11-11  1:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-11-10 22:17 Waiman Long
2021-11-10 22:17 ` [PATCH 1/2] clocksource: Avoid accidental unstable marking of clocksources Waiman Long
2021-11-11  4:57   ` Feng Tang
2021-11-11 14:43     ` Paul E. McKenney
2021-11-12  5:44       ` Feng Tang
2021-11-12 13:47         ` Paul E. McKenney
2021-11-13  3:43         ` Waiman Long
2021-11-14 15:54           ` Paul E. McKenney
2021-11-15  2:08             ` Feng Tang
2021-11-15  3:24               ` Waiman Long
2021-11-15  7:59                 ` Feng Tang
2021-11-15 14:07                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2021-11-16  1:36                     ` Feng Tang
2021-11-16 20:36                       ` Paul E. McKenney
2021-11-15 19:19                   ` Waiman Long
2021-11-10 22:17 ` [PATCH 2/2] clocksource: Add a Kconfig option for WATCHDOG_MAX_SKEW Waiman Long
2021-11-10 22:32 ` [PATCH 0/2] clocksource: Avoid incorrect hpet fallback Paul E. McKenney
2021-11-10 23:25   ` Waiman Long
2021-11-11  0:04     ` Paul E. McKenney
2021-11-11  1:19       ` Waiman Long
2021-11-11  1:23 ` Feng Tang
2021-11-11  1:30   ` Waiman Long
2021-11-11  1:53     ` Feng Tang [this message]
2021-11-11  3:07       ` Paul E. McKenney

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