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From: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@kernel.org>
To: Frederic Weisbecker <frederic@kernel.org>
Cc: Joel Fernandes <joel@joelfernandes.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Rushikesh S Kadam <rushikesh.s.kadam@intel.com>,
	"Uladzislau Rezki (Sony)" <urezki@gmail.com>,
	Neeraj upadhyay <neeraj.iitr10@gmail.com>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>, rcu <rcu@vger.kernel.org>,
	vineeth@bitbyteword.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 00/14] Implement call_rcu_lazy() and miscellaneous fixes
Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2022 04:47:12 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20220830114712.GT6159@paulmck-ThinkPad-P17-Gen-1> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20220830105002.GB70936@lothringen>

On Tue, Aug 30, 2022 at 12:50:02PM +0200, Frederic Weisbecker wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 29, 2022 at 01:31:31PM -0700, Paul E. McKenney wrote:

[ . . . ]

> > Another test would be to look at which callbacks are being invoked
> > on each grace period.  We have to have a substantial number of grace
> > periods having all lazy callbacks before call_rcu_lazy() has any chance
> > of helping.  This would need to happen on a server platform because
> > Android and ChromeOS data might or might not carry over.
> 
> Also that yes.

What would be the best way to collect that data?

Please keep in mind that unless/until we have some clear empirical
indication that call_rcu_lazy() really would help the world of systems
running without rcu_nocbs, moving the call_rcu_lazy() implementation
from the bypass list to cblist does nothing but increase risk to system
that get no benef from call_rcu_lazy().

							Thanx, Paul

  reply	other threads:[~2022-08-30 11:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-08-19 20:48 Joel Fernandes (Google)
2022-08-19 20:48 ` [PATCH v4 01/14] rcu: Introduce call_rcu_lazy() API implementation Joel Fernandes (Google)
2022-08-19 20:48 ` [PATCH v4 02/14] rcu: shrinker for lazy rcu Joel Fernandes (Google)
2022-08-19 20:48 ` [PATCH v4 03/14] rcuscale: Add laziness and kfree tests Joel Fernandes (Google)
2022-08-19 20:48 ` [PATCH v4 04/14] fs: Move call_rcu() to call_rcu_lazy() in some paths Joel Fernandes (Google)
2022-08-19 20:48 ` [PATCH v4 05/14] rcutorture: Add test code for call_rcu_lazy() Joel Fernandes (Google)
2022-08-19 20:48 ` [PATCH v4 06/14] debug: Toggle lazy at runtime and change flush jiffies Joel Fernandes (Google)
2022-08-19 20:48 ` [PATCH v4 07/14] cred: Move call_rcu() to call_rcu_lazy() Joel Fernandes (Google)
2022-08-19 20:48 ` [PATCH v4 08/14] security: " Joel Fernandes (Google)
2022-08-19 20:48 ` [PATCH v4 09/14] net/core: " Joel Fernandes (Google)
2022-08-19 20:48 ` [PATCH v4 10/14] kernel: Move various core kernel usages " Joel Fernandes (Google)
2022-08-19 20:48 ` [PATCH v4 11/14] lib: Move call_rcu() " Joel Fernandes (Google)
2022-08-19 20:48 ` [PATCH v4 12/14] i915: " Joel Fernandes (Google)
2022-08-19 20:48 ` [PATCH v4 13/14] fork: Move thread_stack_free_rcu to call_rcu_lazy Joel Fernandes (Google)
2022-08-19 20:48 ` [PATCH v4 14/14] rcu/tree: Move trace_rcu_callback() before bypassing Joel Fernandes (Google)
2022-08-29 13:40 ` [PATCH v4 00/14] Implement call_rcu_lazy() and miscellaneous fixes Frederic Weisbecker
2022-08-29 16:45   ` Joel Fernandes
2022-08-29 19:46     ` Frederic Weisbecker
2022-08-29 20:31       ` Paul E. McKenney
2022-08-29 20:54         ` Joel Fernandes
2022-08-30 10:50         ` Frederic Weisbecker
2022-08-30 11:47           ` Paul E. McKenney [this message]
2022-08-29 20:36       ` Joel Fernandes
2022-08-29 20:42         ` Paul E. McKenney
2022-08-29 20:48           ` Joel Fernandes
2022-08-30 10:57             ` Frederic Weisbecker
2022-08-30 10:53           ` Frederic Weisbecker
2022-08-30 11:43             ` Paul E. McKenney
2022-08-30 16:03               ` Frederic Weisbecker
2022-08-30 16:22                 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2022-08-30 16:44                   ` Uladzislau Rezki
2022-08-30 18:53                     ` Joel Fernandes
2022-09-01 11:29                     ` Frederic Weisbecker
2022-09-01 11:59                       ` Uladzislau Rezki
2022-09-01 14:41                         ` Paul E. McKenney
2022-09-01 15:30                           ` Frederic Weisbecker
2022-09-01 16:11                             ` Joel Fernandes
2022-09-01 16:52                             ` Paul E. McKenney
2022-09-01 15:13                         ` Frederic Weisbecker
2022-09-01 16:07                           ` Joel Fernandes
2022-08-30 16:46                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2022-08-31 15:26                     ` Frederic Weisbecker
2022-09-01 14:39                       ` Paul E. McKenney
2022-09-01 14:58                         ` Frederic Weisbecker
2022-09-01 16:07                           ` Joel Fernandes
2022-09-01 16:49                             ` Paul E. McKenney
2022-09-01 18:28                               ` Frederic Weisbecker
2022-09-01 20:36                                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2022-08-30 18:46                   ` Joel Fernandes
2022-08-30 10:26         ` Frederic Weisbecker
2022-08-30 18:40           ` Joel Fernandes
2022-08-29 19:57     ` Paul E. McKenney
2022-08-30 10:43       ` Frederic Weisbecker
2022-08-30 12:08         ` Paul E. McKenney

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