From: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@kernel.org>
To: Joel Fernandes <joel@joelfernandes.org>
Cc: rcu@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
rushikesh.s.kadam@intel.com, urezki@gmail.com,
neeraj.iitr10@gmail.com, frederic@kernel.org,
rostedt@goodmis.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 1/4] rcu: Make call_rcu() lazy to save power
Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2022 15:37:51 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20220926223751.GZ4196@paulmck-ThinkPad-P17-Gen-1> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YzIUgAMOPg+jBKsp@google.com>
On Mon, Sep 26, 2022 at 09:07:12PM +0000, Joel Fernandes wrote:
> Hi Paul,
>
> On Mon, Sep 26, 2022 at 10:42:40AM -0700, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> [..]
> > > > > >> + WRITE_ONCE(rdp->lazy_len, 0);
> > > > > >> + } else {
> > > > > >> + rcu_cblist_flush_enqueue(&rcl, &rdp->nocb_bypass, rhp);
> > > > > >> + WRITE_ONCE(rdp->lazy_len, 0);
> > > > > >
> > > > > > This WRITE_ONCE() can be dropped out of the "if" statement, correct?
> > > > >
> > > > > Yes will update.
> > > >
> > > > Thank you!
> > > >
> > > > > > If so, this could be an "if" statement with two statements in its "then"
> > > > > > clause, no "else" clause, and two statements following the "if" statement.
> > > > >
> > > > > I don’t think we can get rid of the else part but I’ll see what it looks like.
> > > >
> > > > In the function header, s/rhp/rhp_in/, then:
> > > >
> > > > struct rcu_head *rhp = rhp_in;
> > > >
> > > > And then:
> > > >
> > > > if (lazy && rhp) {
> > > > rcu_cblist_enqueue(&rdp->nocb_bypass, rhp);
> > > > rhp = NULL;
> > >
> > > This enqueues on to the bypass list, where as if lazy && rhp, I want to queue
> > > the new rhp on to the main cblist. So the pseudo code in my patch is:
> > >
> > > if (lazy and rhp) then
> > > 1. flush bypass CBs on to main list.
> > > 2. queue new CB on to main list.
> >
> > And the difference is here, correct? I enqueue to the bypass list,
> > which is then flushed (in order) to the main list. In contrast, you
> > flush the bypass list, then enqueue to the main list. Either way,
> > the callback referenced by rhp ends up at the end of ->cblist.
> >
> > Or am I on the wrong branch of this "if" statement?
>
> But we have to flush first, and then queue the new one. Otherwise wouldn't
> the callbacks be invoked out of order? Or did I miss something?
I don't think so...
We want the new callback to be last, right? One way to do that is to
flush the bypass, then queue the new callback onto ->cblist. Another way
to do that is to enqueue the new callback onto the end of the bypass,
then flush the bypass. Why wouldn't these result in the same order?
> > > else
> > > 1. flush bypass CBs on to main list
> > > 2. queue new CB on to bypass list.
> > >
> > > > }
> > > > rcu_cblist_flush_enqueue(&rcl, &rdp->nocb_bypass, rhp);
> > > > WRITE_ONCE(rdp->lazy_len, 0);
> > > >
> > > > Or did I mess something up?
> > >
> > > So the rcu_cblist_flush_enqueue() has to happen before the
> > > rcu_cblist_enqueue() to preserve the ordering of flushing into the main list,
> > > and queuing on to the main list for the "if". Where as in your snip, the
> > > order is reversed.
> >
> > Did I pick the correct branch of the "if" statement above? Or were you
> > instead talking about the "else" clause?
> >
> > I would have been more worried about getting cblist->len right.
>
> Hmm, I think my concern was more the ordering of callbacks, and moving the
> write to length should be Ok.
OK, sounds good to me! ;-)
> > > If I consolidate it then, it looks like the following. However, it is a bit
> > > more unreadable. I could instead just take the WRITE_ONCE out of both if/else
> > > and move it to after the if/else, that would be cleanest. Does that sound
> > > good to you? Thanks!
> >
> > Let's first figure out whether or not we are talking past one another. ;-)
>
> Haha yeah :-)
So were we? ;-)
Thanx, Paul
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-09-26 22:37 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 62+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-09-22 22:01 [PATCH v6 0/4] rcu: call_rcu() power improvements Joel Fernandes (Google)
2022-09-22 22:01 ` [PATCH v6 1/4] rcu: Make call_rcu() lazy to save power Joel Fernandes (Google)
2022-09-23 21:44 ` Paul E. McKenney
2022-09-24 16:20 ` Joel Fernandes
2022-09-24 21:11 ` Paul E. McKenney
2022-09-24 22:56 ` Joel Fernandes
2022-09-25 17:31 ` Joel Fernandes
2022-09-26 17:42 ` Paul E. McKenney
2022-09-26 21:07 ` Joel Fernandes
2022-09-26 22:37 ` Paul E. McKenney [this message]
2022-09-26 23:33 ` Joel Fernandes
2022-09-26 23:53 ` Paul E. McKenney
2022-10-03 19:33 ` Joel Fernandes
2022-10-03 19:49 ` Paul E. McKenney
2022-09-24 22:46 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2022-09-24 23:28 ` Joel Fernandes
2022-09-25 1:00 ` Joel Fernandes
2022-09-25 22:00 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2022-09-26 15:04 ` Joel Fernandes
2022-09-26 17:33 ` Paul E. McKenney
2022-09-26 23:37 ` Joel Fernandes
2022-09-25 22:09 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2022-09-26 17:45 ` Paul E. McKenney
2022-09-25 8:57 ` Uladzislau Rezki
2022-09-25 17:46 ` Joel Fernandes
2022-09-26 17:48 ` Paul E. McKenney
2022-09-26 19:32 ` Uladzislau Rezki
2022-09-26 21:02 ` Joel Fernandes
2022-09-26 22:32 ` Paul E. McKenney
2022-09-26 23:47 ` Joel Fernandes
2022-09-26 23:59 ` Paul E. McKenney
2022-09-27 1:49 ` Joel Fernandes
2022-09-27 3:22 ` Paul E. McKenney
2022-09-27 13:05 ` Joel Fernandes
2022-09-27 14:14 ` Paul E. McKenney
2022-09-27 14:22 ` Joel Fernandes
2022-09-27 14:30 ` Paul E. McKenney
2022-09-27 15:25 ` Joel Fernandes
2022-09-27 15:59 ` Paul E. McKenney
[not found] ` <CAEXW_YRpAjvmBPzRA-hRQpuaDuZUzfndLb3q+e3BUyWprg5wkQ@mail.gmail.com>
2022-09-27 3:21 ` Paul E. McKenney
2022-09-26 22:27 ` Paul E. McKenney
2022-09-26 19:39 ` Uladzislau Rezki
2022-09-26 20:54 ` Joel Fernandes
2022-09-26 22:35 ` Paul E. McKenney
2022-09-26 23:44 ` Joel Fernandes
2022-09-26 23:57 ` Paul E. McKenney
2022-09-27 1:16 ` Joel Fernandes
2022-09-27 3:20 ` Paul E. McKenney
2022-09-27 14:08 ` Uladzislau Rezki
2022-09-27 14:30 ` Joel Fernandes
2022-09-27 14:59 ` Uladzislau Rezki
2022-09-27 15:13 ` Uladzislau Rezki
2022-09-27 21:31 ` Uladzislau Rezki
2022-09-27 22:05 ` Joel Fernandes
2022-09-27 22:29 ` Joel Fernandes
2022-09-30 16:11 ` Uladzislau Rezki
2022-10-04 11:35 ` Uladzislau Rezki
2022-10-04 18:06 ` Joel Fernandes
2022-09-27 15:14 ` Joel Fernandes
2022-09-22 22:01 ` [PATCH v6 2/4] rcu: shrinker for lazy rcu Joel Fernandes (Google)
2022-09-22 22:01 ` [PATCH v6 3/4] rcuscale: Add laziness and kfree tests Joel Fernandes (Google)
2022-09-22 22:01 ` [PATCH v6 4/4] percpu-refcount: Use call_rcu_flush() for atomic switch Joel Fernandes (Google)
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