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From: Mel Gorman <mgorman@techsingularity.net>
To: Hao Jia <jiahao.os@bytedance.com>
Cc: Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>,
	mingo@redhat.com, peterz@infradead.org, mingo@kernel.org,
	juri.lelli@redhat.com, vincent.guittot@linaro.org,
	dietmar.eggemann@arm.com, rostedt@goodmis.org,
	bsegall@google.com, bristot@redhat.com, vschneid@redhat.com,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [External] Re: [PATCH 1/2] sched/numa: Stop an exhastive search if an idle core is found
Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2022 14:32:26 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20221025133226.ap6zeidoyea6jher@techsingularity.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <71589225-a4fd-b3eb-14d5-81c9a19419a7@bytedance.com>

On Tue, Oct 25, 2022 at 07:10:22PM +0800, Hao Jia wrote:
> On 2022/10/25 Mel Gorman wrote:
> > On Tue, Oct 25, 2022 at 11:16:29AM +0800, Hao Jia wrote:
> > > > Remove the change in the first hunk and call break in the second hunk
> > > > after updating ns->idle_cpu.
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > Yes, thanks for your review.
> > > If I understand correctly, some things might look like this.
> > > 
> > > diff --git a/kernel/sched/fair.c b/kernel/sched/fair.c
> > > index e4a0b8bd941c..dfcb620bfe50 100644
> > > --- a/kernel/sched/fair.c
> > > +++ b/kernel/sched/fair.c
> > > @@ -1792,7 +1792,7 @@ static void update_numa_stats(struct task_numa_env
> > > *env,
> > >                  ns->nr_running += rq->cfs.h_nr_running;
> > >                  ns->compute_capacity += capacity_of(cpu);
> > > 
> > > -               if (find_idle && !rq->nr_running && idle_cpu(cpu)) {
> > > +               if (find_idle && idle_core < 0 && !rq->nr_running &&
> > > idle_cpu(cpu)) {
> > >                          if (READ_ONCE(rq->numa_migrate_on) ||
> > >                              !cpumask_test_cpu(cpu, env->p->cpus_ptr))
> > >                                  continue;
> > > 
> > 
> > I meant more like the below but today I wondered why did I not do this in
> > the first place? The answer is because it's wrong and broken in concept.
> > 
> > The full loop is needed to calculate approximate NUMA stats at a
> > point in time. For example, the src and dst nr_running is needed by
> > task_numa_find_cpu. The search for an idle CPU or core in update_numa_stats
> > is simply taking advantage of the fact we are scanning anyway to keep
> > track of an idle CPU or core to avoid a second search as per ff7db0bf24db
> > ("sched/numa: Prefer using an idle CPU as a migration target instead of
> > comparing tasks")
> > 
> > The patch I had in mind is below but that said, for both your version and
> > my initial suggestion
> > 
> > Naked-by: Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>
> > 
> > For the record, this is what I was suggesting initially because it's more
> > efficient but it's wrong, don't do it.
> > 
> 
> Thanks for the detailed explanation, maybe my commit message misled you.
> 

Yes, I did end up confusing myself. The title and changelog referred to
stopping a search which made me think of terms of "this whole loop can
terminate early" which it can't but it *can* stop checking for a new idle
core. If an idle core has been found, it follows that an idle CPU has also
been found. While numa_idle_core checks this explicitly, your patch avoids
an unnecessary cpumask_test_cpu so it has value.

> Yes, we can't stop the whole loop of scanning the CPU because we have a lot
> of NUMA information to count.
> 
> But we can stop looking for the next idle core or idle cpu after finding an
> idle core.
> 
> So, please review the previous code.
> 

You're right and sorry for the noise.

Acked-by: Mel Gorman <mgorman@techsingularity.net>

-- 
Mel Gorman
SUSE Labs

  reply	other threads:[~2022-10-25 13:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-10-21  6:15 [PATCH 0/2] Optimize the process of scanning CPU for some functions Hao Jia
2022-10-21  6:15 ` [PATCH 1/2] sched/numa: Stop an exhastive search if an idle core is found Hao Jia
2022-10-24 13:34   ` Mel Gorman
2022-10-25  3:16     ` [External] " Hao Jia
2022-10-25  9:32       ` Mel Gorman
2022-10-25 11:10         ` Hao Jia
2022-10-25 13:32           ` Mel Gorman [this message]
2022-10-26  2:30             ` Hao Jia
2022-10-21  6:15 ` [PATCH 2/2] sched/core: Optimize the order of scanning CPU Hao Jia
2022-10-24 10:00 ` [PATCH 0/2] Optimize the process of scanning CPU for some functions Peter Zijlstra
2022-10-24 12:07   ` [External] " Hao Jia
2022-10-24 13:01   ` Hao Jia

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