From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Josh Don <joshdon@google.com>
Cc: mingo@kernel.org, vincent.guittot@linaro.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, juri.lelli@redhat.com,
dietmar.eggemann@arm.com, rostedt@goodmis.org,
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patrick.bellasi@matbug.net, pjt@google.com, pavel@ucw.cz,
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kprateek.nayak@amd.com, yu.c.chen@intel.com,
youssefesmat@chromium.org, joel@joelfernandes.org, efault@gmx.de
Subject: Re: [PATCH 08/17] sched/fair: Implement an EEVDF like policy
Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2023 10:02:51 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20230329080251.GK4253@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CABk29Nt4T67S+L9Qs1qeOUyo5gY1Qy5KuOwuCYNM74E58J81Eg@mail.gmail.com>
On Tue, Mar 28, 2023 at 06:26:51PM -0700, Josh Don wrote:
> Hi Peter,
>
> This is a really interesting proposal and in general I think the
> incorporation of latency/deadline is quite a nice enhancement. We've
> struggled for a while to get better latency bounds on performance
> sensitive threads in the face of antagonism from overcommit.
>
> > void update_entity_lag(struct cfs_rq *cfs_rq, struct sched_entity *se)
> > {
> > + s64 lag, limit;
> > +
> > SCHED_WARN_ON(!se->on_rq);
> > - se->vlag = avg_vruntime(cfs_rq) - se->vruntime;
> > + lag = avg_vruntime(cfs_rq) - se->vruntime;
> > +
> > + limit = calc_delta_fair(max_t(u64, 2*se->slice, TICK_NSEC), se);
> > + se->vlag = clamp(lag, -limit, limit);
>
> This is for dequeue; presumably you'd want to update the vlag at
> enqueue in case the average has moved again due to enqueue/dequeue of
> other entities?
Ha, just adding the entry back will shift the avgerage around and it's
all a giant pain in the backside.
place_entity(struct cfs_rq *cfs_rq, struct sched_entity *se, int initial)
{
u64 vruntime = avg_vruntime(cfs_rq);
+ s64 lag = 0;
+ /*
+ * Due to how V is constructed as the weighted average of entities,
+ * adding tasks with positive lag, or removing tasks with negative lag
+ * will move 'time' backwards, this can screw around with the lag of
+ * other tasks.
+ *
+ * EEVDF: placement strategy #1 / #2
+ */
+ if (sched_feat(PLACE_LAG) && cfs_rq->nr_running > 1) {
+ struct sched_entity *curr = cfs_rq->curr;
+ unsigned long load;
+ lag = se->vlag;
/*
+ * If we want to place a task and preserve lag, we have to
+ * consider the effect of the new entity on the weighted
+ * average and compensate for this, otherwise lag can quickly
+ * evaporate:
+ *
+ * l_i = V - v_i <=> v_i = V - l_i
+ *
+ * V = v_avg = W*v_avg / W
+ *
+ * V' = (W*v_avg + w_i*v_i) / (W + w_i)
+ * = (W*v_avg + w_i(v_avg - l_i)) / (W + w_i)
+ * = v_avg + w_i*l_i/(W + w_i)
+ *
+ * l_i' = V' - v_i = v_avg + w_i*l_i/(W + w_i) - (v_avg - l)
+ * = l_i - w_i*l_i/(W + w_i)
+ *
+ * l_i = (W + w_i) * l_i' / W
*/
+ load = cfs_rq->avg_load;
+ if (curr && curr->on_rq)
+ load += curr->load.weight;
+
+ lag *= load + se->load.weight;
+ if (WARN_ON_ONCE(!load))
+ load = 1;
+ lag = div_s64(lag, load);
+ vruntime -= lag;
}
That ^ is the other side of it.
But yes, once enqueued, additional join/leave operations can/will shift
V around and lag changes, nothing much to do about that.
The paper does it all a wee bit differently, but I think it ends up
being the same. They explicitly track V (and shift it around on
join/leave) while I implicitly track it through the average and then
need to play games like the above, but in the end it should be the same.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-03-29 8:03 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 55+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-03-28 9:26 [PATCH 00/17] sched: EEVDF using latency-nice Peter Zijlstra
2023-03-28 9:26 ` [PATCH 01/17] sched: Introduce latency-nice as a per-task attribute Peter Zijlstra
2023-03-28 9:26 ` [PATCH 02/17] sched/fair: Add latency_offset Peter Zijlstra
2023-03-28 9:26 ` [PATCH 03/17] sched/fair: Add sched group latency support Peter Zijlstra
2023-03-28 9:26 ` [PATCH 04/17] sched/fair: Add avg_vruntime Peter Zijlstra
2023-03-28 23:57 ` Josh Don
2023-03-29 7:50 ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-04-05 19:13 ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-03-28 9:26 ` [PATCH 05/17] sched/fair: Remove START_DEBIT Peter Zijlstra
2023-03-28 9:26 ` [PATCH 06/17] sched/fair: Add lag based placement Peter Zijlstra
2023-04-03 9:18 ` Chen Yu
2023-04-05 9:47 ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-04-06 3:03 ` Chen Yu
2023-04-13 15:42 ` Chen Yu
2023-04-13 15:55 ` Chen Yu
2023-03-28 9:26 ` [PATCH 07/17] rbtree: Add rb_add_augmented_cached() helper Peter Zijlstra
2023-03-28 9:26 ` [PATCH 08/17] sched/fair: Implement an EEVDF like policy Peter Zijlstra
2023-03-29 1:26 ` Josh Don
2023-03-29 8:02 ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2023-03-29 8:06 ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-03-29 8:22 ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-03-29 18:48 ` Josh Don
2023-03-29 8:12 ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-03-29 18:54 ` Josh Don
2023-03-29 8:18 ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-03-29 14:35 ` Vincent Guittot
2023-03-30 8:01 ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-03-30 17:05 ` Vincent Guittot
2023-04-04 12:00 ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-03-28 9:26 ` [PATCH 09/17] sched: Commit to lag based placement Peter Zijlstra
2023-03-28 9:26 ` [PATCH 10/17] sched/smp: Use lag to simplify cross-runqueue placement Peter Zijlstra
2023-03-28 9:26 ` [PATCH 11/17] sched: Commit to EEVDF Peter Zijlstra
2023-03-28 9:26 ` [PATCH 12/17] sched/debug: Rename min_granularity to base_slice Peter Zijlstra
2023-03-28 9:26 ` [PATCH 13/17] sched: Merge latency_offset into slice Peter Zijlstra
2023-03-28 9:26 ` [PATCH 14/17] sched/eevdf: Better handle mixed slice length Peter Zijlstra
2023-03-31 15:26 ` Vincent Guittot
2023-04-04 9:29 ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-04-04 13:50 ` Joel Fernandes
2023-04-05 5:41 ` Mike Galbraith
2023-04-05 8:35 ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-04-05 20:05 ` Joel Fernandes
2023-04-14 11:18 ` Phil Auld
2023-04-16 5:10 ` Joel Fernandes
[not found] ` <20230401232355.336-1-hdanton@sina.com>
2023-04-02 2:40 ` Mike Galbraith
2023-03-28 9:26 ` [PATCH 15/17] [RFC] sched/eevdf: Sleeper bonus Peter Zijlstra
2023-03-29 9:10 ` Mike Galbraith
2023-03-28 9:26 ` [PATCH 16/17] [RFC] sched/eevdf: Minimal vavg option Peter Zijlstra
2023-03-28 9:26 ` [PATCH 17/17] [DEBUG] sched/eevdf: Debug / validation crud Peter Zijlstra
2023-04-03 7:42 ` [PATCH 00/17] sched: EEVDF using latency-nice Shrikanth Hegde
2023-04-10 3:13 ` David Vernet
2023-04-11 2:09 ` David Vernet
[not found] ` <20230410082307.1327-1-hdanton@sina.com>
2023-04-11 10:15 ` Mike Galbraith
[not found] ` <20230411133333.1790-1-hdanton@sina.com>
2023-04-11 14:56 ` Mike Galbraith
[not found] ` <20230412025042.1413-1-hdanton@sina.com>
2023-04-12 4:05 ` Mike Galbraith
2023-04-25 12:32 ` Phil Auld
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