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From: Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@kernel.org>
To: Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>
Cc: Nikolay Borisov <nik.borisov@suse.com>, X86 ML <x86@kernel.org>,
	Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@redhat.com>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] x86/srso: Correct the mitigation status when SMT is disabled
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2023 14:27:51 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20230815212751.xhsyn7iwj2gwpuk5@treble> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20230815201753.GGZNvdcbPHXtEXn4As@fat_crate.local>

On Tue, Aug 15, 2023 at 10:17:53PM +0200, Borislav Petkov wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 15, 2023 at 12:58:31PM -0700, Josh Poimboeuf wrote:
> > AFAICT, nowhere in the spec does it say the SRSO_NO bit won't get set by
> > future (fixed) HW.  In fact I'd expect it will, similar to other *_NO
> > flags.
> 
> I'm pretty sure it won't.
> 
> SRSO_NO is synthesized by the hypervisor *software*. Nothing else.

Citation needed.

> It is there so that you don't check microcode version in the guest which
> is nearly impossible anyway.
> 
> > Regardless, here SRSO_NO seems to mean two different things: "reported
> > safe by host (or HW)" and "not reported safe on Zen1/2 with SMT not
> > possible".
> 
> Huh?

Can you clarify what doesn't make sense?

> > Also, in this code, the SRSO_NO+SMT combo doesn't seem logically
> > possible, as srso_show_state() only gets called if X86_BUG_SRSO is set,
> > which only happens if SRSO_NO is not set by the HW/host in the first
> > place.  So here, if boot_cpu_has(X86_FEATURE_SRSO_NO), it means SRSO_NO
> > was manually set by srso_select_mitigation(), and SMT can't possibly be
> > enabled.
> 
> Have you considered the case where Linux would set SRSO_NO when booting
> on future hardware, which is fixed?
> 
> There SRSO_NO and SMT will very much be possible.

How is that relevant to my comment?  The bug bit still wouldn't get set
and srso_show_state() still wouldn't be called.

-- 
Josh

  reply	other threads:[~2023-08-15 21:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-08-13 10:45 [PATCH] x86/srso: Disable the mitigation on unaffected configurations Borislav Petkov
2023-08-14  6:39 ` Nikolay Borisov
2023-08-14 20:08   ` Josh Poimboeuf
2023-08-14 20:25     ` Borislav Petkov
2023-08-14 20:53       ` Josh Poimboeuf
2023-08-14 21:17         ` Borislav Petkov
2023-08-15  9:57           ` [PATCH] x86/srso: Correct the mitigation status when SMT is disabled Borislav Petkov
2023-08-15 19:58             ` Josh Poimboeuf
2023-08-15 20:17               ` Borislav Petkov
2023-08-15 21:27                 ` Josh Poimboeuf [this message]
2023-08-16  8:30                   ` Borislav Petkov
2023-08-16 16:07                     ` Josh Poimboeuf
2023-08-16 17:35                       ` Borislav Petkov
2023-08-16 18:29                         ` Josh Poimboeuf
2023-08-16 18:58                           ` Borislav Petkov
2023-08-17  9:07                             ` Borislav Petkov
2023-08-17 14:54                               ` Josh Poimboeuf
2023-08-18 10:59     ` [tip: x86/urgent] " tip-bot2 for Borislav Petkov (AMD)
2023-08-14  9:37 ` [tip: x86/urgent] x86/srso: Disable the mitigation on unaffected configurations tip-bot2 for Borislav Petkov (AMD)

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