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From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@kernel.org>
Cc: Nikolay Borisov <nik.borisov@suse.com>,
	Andrew Cooper <andrew.cooper3@citrix.com>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	x86@kernel.org, Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
	Babu Moger <babu.moger@amd.com>,
	David.Kaplan@amd.com, gregkh@linuxfoundation.org,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC 4/4] x86/srso: Use CALL-based return thunks to reduce overhead
Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2023 14:50:23 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20230913125023.GG692@noisy.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20230822221828.htnwidmr22gtjhcd@treble>

On Tue, Aug 22, 2023 at 03:18:28PM -0700, Josh Poimboeuf wrote:

> The problem is the call-site, not the thunk.  Ideally we'd have an
> option which adds an INT3 after the 'JMP __x86_return_thunk'.

The -mharden-sls=all option *SHOULD* be extended to unconditionally emit
INT3 after everyt JMP instruction -- including the one used for
-mfunction-return=thunk-extern.

This is a known missing mitigation for an AMD SLS issue.

Due to the whole branch-type-confusion thing, AMD CPUs can predict the
JMP as 'not-a-branch' and continue to the next instruction.

I'm sure Andrew has the proper name and CVE stashed away somewhere. IIRC
he even has a GCC bugzilla entry for it.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2023-09-13 12:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-08-21 11:27 [PATCH 0/4] x86/srso: Reduce overhead of the mitigation Andrew Cooper
2023-08-21 11:27 ` [PATCH 1/4] x86/srso: Rename srso_alias_*() to srso_fam19_*() Andrew Cooper
2023-09-13 13:46   ` Borislav Petkov
2023-09-13 14:27     ` Andrew Cooper
2023-09-13 14:46       ` Borislav Petkov
2023-08-21 11:27 ` [PATCH 2/4] x86/srso: Rename fam17 SRSO infrastructure to srso_fam17_*() Andrew Cooper
2023-09-13 13:15   ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-08-21 11:27 ` [PATCH RFC 3/4] x86/ret-thunk: Support CALL-ing to the ret-thunk Andrew Cooper
2023-08-21 11:27 ` [PATCH RFC 4/4] x86/srso: Use CALL-based return thunks to reduce overhead Andrew Cooper
2023-08-21 15:16   ` Josh Poimboeuf
2023-08-21 23:01     ` Andrew Cooper
2023-08-22  2:22       ` Josh Poimboeuf
2023-08-22  6:45         ` Nikolay Borisov
2023-08-22 22:18           ` Josh Poimboeuf
2023-08-23  6:08             ` Nikolay Borisov
2023-09-13 12:50             ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2023-09-13 13:17   ` Peter Zijlstra

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