From: Boris Brezillon <boris.brezillon@collabora.com>
To: "Christian König" <christian.koenig@amd.com>
Cc: Danilo Krummrich <dakr@redhat.com>,
airlied@gmail.com, daniel@ffwll.ch, matthew.brost@intel.com,
faith@gfxstrand.net, luben.tuikov@amd.com,
dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH drm-misc-next v3] drm/sched: implement dynamic job-flow control
Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2023 10:22:37 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20231027102237.0cdb85af@collabora.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <98988459-25a8-4ee0-89d4-cb816cbc5bef@amd.com>
On Fri, 27 Oct 2023 09:44:13 +0200
Christian König <christian.koenig@amd.com> wrote:
> Am 27.10.23 um 09:39 schrieb Boris Brezillon:
> > On Fri, 27 Oct 2023 09:35:01 +0200
> > Christian König<christian.koenig@amd.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Am 27.10.23 um 09:32 schrieb Boris Brezillon:
> >>> On Fri, 27 Oct 2023 09:22:12 +0200
> >>> Christian König<christian.koenig@amd.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>> +
> >>>>> + /**
> >>>>> + * @update_job_credits: Called once the scheduler is considering this
> >>>>> + * job for execution.
> >>>>> + *
> >>>>> + * Drivers may use this to update the job's submission credits, which is
> >>>>> + * useful to e.g. deduct the number of native fences which have been
> >>>>> + * signaled meanwhile.
> >>>>> + *
> >>>>> + * The callback must either return the new number of submission credits
> >>>>> + * for the given job, or zero if no update is required.
> >>>>> + *
> >>>>> + * This callback is optional.
> >>>>> + */
> >>>>> + u32 (*update_job_credits)(struct drm_sched_job *sched_job);
> >>>> Why do we need an extra callback for this?
> >>>>
> >>>> Just document that prepare_job() is allowed to reduce the number of
> >>>> credits the job might need.
> >>> ->prepare_job() is called only once if the returned fence is NULL, but
> >>> we need this credit-update to happen every time a job is considered for
> >>> execution by the scheduler.
> >> But the job is only considered for execution once. How do you see that
> >> this is called multiple times?
> > Nope, it's not. If drm_sched_can_queue() returns false, the scheduler
> > will go look for another entity that has a job ready for execution, and
> > get back to this entity later, and test drm_sched_can_queue() again.
> > Basically, any time drm_sched_can_queue() is called, the job credits
> > update should happen, so we have an accurate view of how many credits
> > this job needs.
>
> Well, that is the handling which I already rejected because it creates
> unfairness between processes. When you consider the credits needed
> *before* scheduling jobs with a lower credit count are always preferred
> over jobs with a higher credit count.
My bad, it doesn't pick another entity when an entity with a
ready job that doesn't fit the queue is found, it just bails out from
drm_sched_rq_select_entity_rr() and returns NULL (AKA: no ready entity
found). But we still want to update the job credits before checking if
the job fits or not (next time this entity is tested).
> What you can do is to look at the credits of a job *after* it was picked
> up for scheduling so that you can scheduler more jobs.
Sure, but then you might further delay your job if something made it
smaller (ie. native fences got signaled) between ->prepare_job() and
drm_sched_can_queue(). And any new drm_sched_can_queue() test would
just see the old credits value.
Out of curiosity, what are you worried about with this optional
->update_job_credits() call in the drm_sched_can_queue() path? Is the
if (sched->update_job_credits) overhead considered too high for drivers
that don't need it?
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-10-27 8:23 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-10-26 16:13 Danilo Krummrich
2023-10-26 21:13 ` Luben Tuikov
2023-10-27 1:03 ` Luben Tuikov
2023-10-27 7:17 ` Boris Brezillon
[not found] ` <794f9b45-db0d-4261-aefe-7da2ad0ed3b7@redhat.com>
[not found] ` <20231027182626.6a8ba090@collabora.com>
2023-10-28 3:34 ` Luben Tuikov
2023-10-27 7:22 ` Christian König
2023-10-27 7:32 ` Boris Brezillon
2023-10-27 7:35 ` Christian König
2023-10-27 7:39 ` Boris Brezillon
[not found] ` <98988459-25a8-4ee0-89d4-cb816cbc5bef@amd.com>
2023-10-27 8:22 ` Boris Brezillon [this message]
[not found] ` <190e3ab7-6440-4d41-a79f-5dd4b7d3ca52@amd.com>
2023-10-27 10:17 ` Boris Brezillon
2023-10-30 7:38 ` Christian König
2023-10-30 17:56 ` Danilo Krummrich
[not found] ` <e9c6af32-8d2a-4f04-9c12-1170a3aa1236@amd.com>
2023-10-31 15:01 ` Danilo Krummrich
[not found] ` <8d4a0870-f7d0-41ee-aa25-6488b6ea037a@amd.com>
[not found] ` <ZUPkfKzgKqhqQhMI@pollux>
[not found] ` <c91cf097-2ed3-4669-b9ae-b16b5f875b02@amd.com>
2023-11-06 16:46 ` Danilo Krummrich
2023-11-07 9:13 ` Christian König
2023-11-07 13:03 ` Danilo Krummrich
2023-10-27 8:25 ` Boris Brezillon
[not found] ` <8e117f9f-a01c-4242-8781-b2ed4969513b@redhat.com>
[not found] ` <20231027183158.2dc4cce4@collabora.com>
2023-10-28 3:37 ` Luben Tuikov
[not found] ` <a9215c37-61cd-4fbc-9f80-217daacd96bd@gmail.com>
[not found] ` <20231027184143.4427edb8@collabora.com>
2023-10-28 3:51 ` Luben Tuikov
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