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From: Luben Tuikov <ltuikov89@gmail.com>
To: Boris Brezillon <boris.brezillon@collabora.com>,
	Danilo Krummrich <dakr@redhat.com>
Cc: matthew.brost@intel.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org, faith@gfxstrand.net,
	luben.tuikov@amd.com, christian.koenig@amd.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH drm-misc-next v3] drm/sched: implement dynamic job-flow control
Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2023 23:37:40 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <a6405799-23bc-49f3-a526-bb4b10ae4b99@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20231027183158.2dc4cce4@collabora.com>


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On 2023-10-27 12:31, Boris Brezillon wrote:
> On Fri, 27 Oct 2023 16:23:24 +0200
> Danilo Krummrich <dakr@redhat.com> wrote:
> 
>> On 10/27/23 10:25, Boris Brezillon wrote:
>>> Hi Danilo,
>>>
>>> On Thu, 26 Oct 2023 18:13:00 +0200
>>> Danilo Krummrich <dakr@redhat.com> wrote:
>>>   
>>>> Currently, job flow control is implemented simply by limiting the number
>>>> of jobs in flight. Therefore, a scheduler is initialized with a credit
>>>> limit that corresponds to the number of jobs which can be sent to the
>>>> hardware.
>>>>
>>>> This implies that for each job, drivers need to account for the maximum
>>>> job size possible in order to not overflow the ring buffer.
>>>>
>>>> However, there are drivers, such as Nouveau, where the job size has a
>>>> rather large range. For such drivers it can easily happen that job
>>>> submissions not even filling the ring by 1% can block subsequent
>>>> submissions, which, in the worst case, can lead to the ring run dry.
>>>>
>>>> In order to overcome this issue, allow for tracking the actual job size
>>>> instead of the number of jobs. Therefore, add a field to track a job's
>>>> credit count, which represents the number of credits a job contributes
>>>> to the scheduler's credit limit.
>>>>
>>>> Signed-off-by: Danilo Krummrich <dakr@redhat.com>
>>>> ---
>>>> Changes in V2:
>>>> ==============
>>>>    - fixed up influence on scheduling fairness due to consideration of a job's
>>>>      size
>>>>      - If we reach a ready entity in drm_sched_select_entity() but can't actually
>>>>        queue a job from it due to size limitations, just give up and go to sleep
>>>>        until woken up due to a pending job finishing, rather than continue to try
>>>>        other entities.
>>>>    - added a callback to dynamically update a job's credits (Boris)  
>>>
>>> This callback seems controversial. I'd suggest dropping it, so the
>>> patch can be merged.  
>>
>> I don't think we should drop it just for the sake of moving forward. If there are objections
>> we'll discuss them. I've seen good reasons why the drivers you are working on require this,
>> while, following the discussion, I have *not* seen any reasons to drop it. It helps simplifying
>> driver code and doesn't introduce any complexity or overhead to existing drivers.
> 
> Up to you. I'm just saying, moving one step in the right direction is
> better than being stuck, and it's not like adding this callback in a
> follow-up patch is super complicated either. If you're confident that
> we can get all parties to agree on keeping this hook, fine by me.

I'd rather have it in now, as it is really *the vision* of this patch. There's no point
in pushing in something half-baked.
-- 
Regards,
Luben

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2023-10-28  3:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-10-26 16:13 Danilo Krummrich
2023-10-26 21:13 ` Luben Tuikov
2023-10-27  1:03   ` Luben Tuikov
2023-10-27  7:17 ` Boris Brezillon
     [not found]   ` <794f9b45-db0d-4261-aefe-7da2ad0ed3b7@redhat.com>
     [not found]     ` <20231027182626.6a8ba090@collabora.com>
2023-10-28  3:34       ` Luben Tuikov
2023-10-27  7:22 ` Christian König
2023-10-27  7:32   ` Boris Brezillon
2023-10-27  7:35     ` Christian König
2023-10-27  7:39       ` Boris Brezillon
     [not found]         ` <98988459-25a8-4ee0-89d4-cb816cbc5bef@amd.com>
2023-10-27  8:22           ` Boris Brezillon
     [not found]             ` <190e3ab7-6440-4d41-a79f-5dd4b7d3ca52@amd.com>
2023-10-27 10:17               ` Boris Brezillon
2023-10-30  7:38                 ` Christian König
2023-10-30 17:56                   ` Danilo Krummrich
     [not found]                     ` <e9c6af32-8d2a-4f04-9c12-1170a3aa1236@amd.com>
2023-10-31 15:01                       ` Danilo Krummrich
     [not found]                         ` <8d4a0870-f7d0-41ee-aa25-6488b6ea037a@amd.com>
     [not found]                           ` <ZUPkfKzgKqhqQhMI@pollux>
     [not found]                             ` <c91cf097-2ed3-4669-b9ae-b16b5f875b02@amd.com>
2023-11-06 16:46                               ` Danilo Krummrich
2023-11-07  9:13                                 ` Christian König
2023-11-07 13:03                                   ` Danilo Krummrich
2023-10-27  8:25 ` Boris Brezillon
     [not found]   ` <8e117f9f-a01c-4242-8781-b2ed4969513b@redhat.com>
     [not found]     ` <20231027183158.2dc4cce4@collabora.com>
2023-10-28  3:37       ` Luben Tuikov [this message]
     [not found]   ` <a9215c37-61cd-4fbc-9f80-217daacd96bd@gmail.com>
     [not found]     ` <20231027184143.4427edb8@collabora.com>
2023-10-28  3:51       ` Luben Tuikov

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