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* [PATCH] mm: do not protect VMA lock object in vma_end_read()
@ 2023-12-07  9:48 Alexander Gordeev
  2023-12-07 14:00 ` Jann Horn
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 2+ messages in thread
From: Alexander Gordeev @ 2023-12-07  9:48 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Andrew Morton
  Cc: linux-kernel, linux-mm, Alexander Gordeev, Jann Horn, Suren Baghdasaryan

In early discussion to the implementation of vma_end_read()
Jann Horn pointed out that up_read() could access the VMA
lock object after it has already been acquired by someone
else. As result, up_read() is protected with RCU read lock:

	rcu_read_lock(); /* keeps vma alive */
	up_read(&vma->lock);
	rcu_read_unlock();

Since commit 3f5245538a19 ("locking/rwsem: Disable preemption
in all down_read*() and up_read() code paths") __up_read()
disables preemption internally and thus the need to protect
the VMA lock object does not exist anymore.

Link: https://lore.kernel.org/all/CAG48ez3sCwasFzKD5CsqMFA2W57-2fazd75g7r0NaA_BVNTLow@mail.gmail.com/
Cc: Jann Horn <jannh@google.com>
Cc: Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@google.com>
Signed-off-by: Alexander Gordeev <agordeev@linux.ibm.com>
---
 include/linux/mm.h | 2 --
 1 file changed, 2 deletions(-)

diff --git a/include/linux/mm.h b/include/linux/mm.h
index 418d26608ece..7b32bc75a4ab 100644
--- a/include/linux/mm.h
+++ b/include/linux/mm.h
@@ -683,9 +683,7 @@ static inline bool vma_start_read(struct vm_area_struct *vma)
 
 static inline void vma_end_read(struct vm_area_struct *vma)
 {
-	rcu_read_lock(); /* keeps vma alive till the end of up_read */
 	up_read(&vma->vm_lock->lock);
-	rcu_read_unlock();
 }
 
 /* WARNING! Can only be used if mmap_lock is expected to be write-locked */
-- 
2.40.1


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* Re: [PATCH] mm: do not protect VMA lock object in vma_end_read()
  2023-12-07  9:48 [PATCH] mm: do not protect VMA lock object in vma_end_read() Alexander Gordeev
@ 2023-12-07 14:00 ` Jann Horn
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 2+ messages in thread
From: Jann Horn @ 2023-12-07 14:00 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Alexander Gordeev
  Cc: Andrew Morton, linux-kernel, linux-mm, Suren Baghdasaryan,
	Waiman Long, Peter Zijlstra, Ingo Molnar, Thomas Gleixner

On Thu, Dec 7, 2023 at 10:49 AM Alexander Gordeev
<agordeev@linux.ibm.com> wrote:
> In early discussion to the implementation of vma_end_read()
> Jann Horn pointed out that up_read() could access the VMA
> lock object after it has already been acquired by someone
> else. As result, up_read() is protected with RCU read lock:
>
>         rcu_read_lock(); /* keeps vma alive */
>         up_read(&vma->lock);
>         rcu_read_unlock();
>
> Since commit 3f5245538a19 ("locking/rwsem: Disable preemption
> in all down_read*() and up_read() code paths") __up_read()
> disables preemption internally and thus the need to protect
> the VMA lock object does not exist anymore.

I think this is a bad idea. Please don't.

Yes, it looks like the (non-RT) implementation of __up_read
*currently* disables preemption. But that's an implementation detail,
not a documented API contract of up_read(), so there would be nothing
stopping someone from reimplementing __up_read() in the future such
that the preemption stuff disappears again.

And from what I can tell from a quick look, the RT implementation of
__up_read() does not currently give you this kind of guarantee.

In my opinion, if you want to make this change, then as a prerequisite
you have to get buy-in from the locking maintainers.


> Link: https://lore.kernel.org/all/CAG48ez3sCwasFzKD5CsqMFA2W57-2fazd75g7r0NaA_BVNTLow@mail.gmail.com/
> Cc: Jann Horn <jannh@google.com>
> Cc: Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@google.com>
> Signed-off-by: Alexander Gordeev <agordeev@linux.ibm.com>
> ---
>  include/linux/mm.h | 2 --
>  1 file changed, 2 deletions(-)
>
> diff --git a/include/linux/mm.h b/include/linux/mm.h
> index 418d26608ece..7b32bc75a4ab 100644
> --- a/include/linux/mm.h
> +++ b/include/linux/mm.h
> @@ -683,9 +683,7 @@ static inline bool vma_start_read(struct vm_area_struct *vma)
>
>  static inline void vma_end_read(struct vm_area_struct *vma)
>  {
> -       rcu_read_lock(); /* keeps vma alive till the end of up_read */
>         up_read(&vma->vm_lock->lock);
> -       rcu_read_unlock();
>  }
>
>  /* WARNING! Can only be used if mmap_lock is expected to be write-locked */
> --
> 2.40.1
>

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