From: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@kernel.org>,
linke li <lilinke99@qq.com>,
joel@joelfernandes.org, boqun.feng@gmail.com, dave@stgolabs.net,
frederic@kernel.org, jiangshanlai@gmail.com,
josh@joshtriplett.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com, qiang.zhang1211@gmail.com,
quic_neeraju@quicinc.com, rcu@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] rcutorture: Fix rcu_torture_pipe_update_one()/rcu_torture_writer() data race and concurrency bug
Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2024 08:20:59 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20240307082059.1dc2582d@gandalf.local.home> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAHk-=whs5MdtNjzFkTyaUy=vHi=qwWgPi0JgTe6OYUYMNSRZfg@mail.gmail.com>
On Wed, 6 Mar 2024 12:06:00 -0800
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org> wrote:
> On Wed, 6 Mar 2024 at 11:45, Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org> wrote:
> >
> > Here's the back story. I received the following patch:
> >
> > https://lore.kernel.org/all/tencent_BA1473492BC618B473864561EA3AB1418908@qq.com/
> >
> > I didn't like it. My reply was:
> >
> > > - rbwork->wait_index++;
> > > + WRITE_ONCE(rbwork->wait_index, READ_ONCE(rbwork->wait_index) + 1);
> >
> > I mean the above is really ugly. If this is the new thing to do, we need
> > better macros.
> >
> > If anything, just convert it to an atomic_t.
>
> The right thing is definitely to convert it to an atomic_t.
Agreed.
>
> The memory barriers can probably also be turned into atomic ordering,
> although we don't always have all the variates.
>
> But for example, that
>
> /* Make sure to see the new wait index */
> smp_rmb();
> if (wait_index != work->wait_index)
> break;
>
> looks odd, and should probably do an "atomic_read_acquire()" instead
> of a rmb and a (non-atomic and non-READ_ONCE thing).
>
> The first READ_ONCE() should probably also be that atomic_read_acquire() op.
>
> On the writing side, my gut feel is that the
>
> rbwork->wait_index++;
> /* make sure the waiters see the new index */
> smp_wmb();
>
> should be an "atomic_inc_release(&rbwork->wait_index);" but we don't
> actually have that operation. We only have the "release" versions for
> things that return a value.
>
> So it would probably need to be either
>
> atomic_inc(&rbwork->wait_index);
> /* make sure the waiters see the new index */
> smp_wmb();
>
> or
>
> atomic_inc_return_release(&rbwork->wait_index);
>
> or we'd need to add the "basic atomics with ordering semantics" (which
> we aren't going to do unless we end up with a lot more people who want
> them).
>
> I dunno. I didn't look all *that* closely at the code. The above might
> be garbage too. Somebody who actually knows the code should think
> about what ordering they actually were looking for.
>
> (And I note that 'wait_index' is of type 'long' in 'struct
> rb_irq_work', so I guess it should be "atomic_long_t" instead - just
> shows how little attention I paid on the first read-through, which
> should make everybody go "I need to double-check Linus here")
It doesn't need to be long. I'm not even sure why I made it long. Probably
for natural alignment.
The code isn't that complex. You can have a list of waiters waiting for the
ring buffer to fill to various watermarks (in most cases, it's just one waiter).
When a write happens, it looks to see if the smallest watermark is hit,
if so, calls irqwork to wakeup all the waiters.
The waiters will wake up, check to see if a signal is pending or if the
ring buffer has hit the watermark the waiter was waiting for and exit the
wait loop.
What the wait_index does, is just a way to force all waiters out of the wait
loop regardless of the watermark the waiter is waiting for. Before a waiter
goes into the wait loop, it saves the current wait_index. The waker will
increment the wait_index and then call the same irq_work to wake up all the
waiters.
After the wakeup happens, the waiter will test if the new wait_index
matches what it was before it entered the loop, and if it is different, it
falls out of the loop. Then the caller of the ring_buffer_wait() can
re-evaluate if it needs to enter the wait again.
The wait_index loop exit was needed for when the file descriptor of a file
that uses a ring buffer closes and it needs to wake up all the readers of
that file descriptor to notify their tasks that the file closed.
So we can switch the:
rbwork->wait_index++;
smp_wmb();
into just a:
(void)atomic_inc_return_release(&rbwork->wait_index);
and the:
smp_rmb()
if (wait_index != work->wait_index)
into:
if (wait_index != atomic_read_acquire(&rb->wait_index))
I'll write up a patch.
Hmm, I have the same wait_index logic at the higher level doing basically
the same thing (at the close of the file). I'll switch that over too.
-- Steve
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-03-07 13:19 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-03-04 10:54 linke li
2024-03-04 16:19 ` Joel Fernandes
2024-03-04 17:14 ` Paul E. McKenney
2024-03-04 19:10 ` Joel Fernandes
2024-03-04 19:44 ` Paul E. McKenney
2024-03-04 20:13 ` Joel Fernandes
2024-03-04 20:47 ` Paul E. McKenney
2024-03-05 3:30 ` linke
2024-03-05 6:24 ` linke li
2024-03-06 15:37 ` Steven Rostedt
2024-03-06 17:36 ` Paul E. McKenney
2024-03-06 18:01 ` Steven Rostedt
2024-03-06 18:09 ` Paul E. McKenney
2024-03-06 18:20 ` Steven Rostedt
2024-03-06 18:43 ` Linus Torvalds
2024-03-06 18:55 ` Steven Rostedt
2024-03-06 19:01 ` Linus Torvalds
2024-03-06 19:27 ` Linus Torvalds
2024-03-06 19:47 ` Steven Rostedt
2024-03-06 20:06 ` Linus Torvalds
2024-03-07 13:20 ` Steven Rostedt [this message]
2024-03-07 16:12 ` Steven Rostedt
2024-03-06 19:27 ` Steven Rostedt
2024-03-06 19:46 ` Linus Torvalds
2024-03-06 20:20 ` Linus Torvalds
2024-03-07 2:29 ` Paul E. McKenney
2024-03-07 2:43 ` Linus Torvalds
2024-03-07 2:49 ` Linus Torvalds
2024-03-07 3:21 ` Paul E. McKenney
2024-03-07 3:06 ` Paul E. McKenney
2024-03-07 3:06 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2024-03-07 3:37 ` Paul E. McKenney
2024-03-07 5:44 ` Joel Fernandes
2024-03-07 19:05 ` Paul E. McKenney
2024-03-07 13:53 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2024-03-07 19:47 ` Paul E. McKenney
2024-03-07 19:53 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2024-03-08 0:58 ` Paul E. McKenney
2024-03-07 20:00 ` Linus Torvalds
2024-03-07 20:57 ` Paul E. McKenney
2024-03-07 21:40 ` Julia Lawall
2024-03-07 22:09 ` Linus Torvalds
2024-03-08 0:55 ` Paul E. McKenney
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