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From: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@kernel.org>,
	linke li <lilinke99@qq.com>,
	joel@joelfernandes.org, boqun.feng@gmail.com, dave@stgolabs.net,
	frederic@kernel.org, jiangshanlai@gmail.com,
	josh@joshtriplett.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com, qiang.zhang1211@gmail.com,
	quic_neeraju@quicinc.com, rcu@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] rcutorture: Fix rcu_torture_pipe_update_one()/rcu_torture_writer() data race and concurrency bug
Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2024 08:20:59 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20240307082059.1dc2582d@gandalf.local.home> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAHk-=whs5MdtNjzFkTyaUy=vHi=qwWgPi0JgTe6OYUYMNSRZfg@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, 6 Mar 2024 12:06:00 -0800
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org> wrote:

> On Wed, 6 Mar 2024 at 11:45, Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org> wrote:
> >
> > Here's the back story. I received the following patch:
> >
> >   https://lore.kernel.org/all/tencent_BA1473492BC618B473864561EA3AB1418908@qq.com/
> >
> > I didn't like it. My reply was:
> >  
> >         > -     rbwork->wait_index++;
> >         > +     WRITE_ONCE(rbwork->wait_index, READ_ONCE(rbwork->wait_index) + 1);  
> >
> >         I mean the above is really ugly. If this is the new thing to do, we need
> >         better macros.
> >
> >         If anything, just convert it to an atomic_t.  
> 
> The right thing is definitely to convert it to an atomic_t.

Agreed.

> 
> The memory barriers can probably also be turned into atomic ordering,
> although we don't always have all the variates.
> 
> But for example, that
> 
>                 /* Make sure to see the new wait index */
>                 smp_rmb();
>                 if (wait_index != work->wait_index)
>                         break;
> 
> looks odd, and should probably do an "atomic_read_acquire()" instead
> of a rmb and a (non-atomic and non-READ_ONCE thing).
> 
> The first READ_ONCE() should probably also be that atomic_read_acquire() op.
> 
> On the writing side, my gut feel is that the
> 
>         rbwork->wait_index++;
>         /* make sure the waiters see the new index */
>         smp_wmb();
> 
> should be an "atomic_inc_release(&rbwork->wait_index);" but we don't
> actually have that operation. We only have the "release" versions for
> things that return a value.
> 
> So it would probably need to be either
> 
>         atomic_inc(&rbwork->wait_index);
>         /* make sure the waiters see the new index */
>         smp_wmb();
> 
> or
> 
>         atomic_inc_return_release(&rbwork->wait_index);
> 
> or we'd need to add the "basic atomics with ordering semantics" (which
> we aren't going to do unless we end up with a lot more people who want
> them).
> 
> I dunno. I didn't look all *that* closely at the code. The above might
> be garbage too. Somebody who actually knows the code should think
> about what ordering they actually were looking for.
> 
> (And I note that 'wait_index' is of type 'long' in 'struct
> rb_irq_work', so I guess it should be "atomic_long_t" instead -  just
> shows how little attention I paid on the first read-through, which
> should make everybody go "I need to double-check Linus here")

It doesn't need to be long. I'm not even sure why I made it long. Probably
for natural alignment.

The code isn't that complex. You can have a list of waiters waiting for the
ring buffer to fill to various watermarks (in most cases, it's just one waiter).

When a write happens, it looks to see if the smallest watermark is hit,
if so, calls irqwork to wakeup all the waiters.

The waiters will wake up, check to see if a signal is pending or if the
ring buffer has hit the watermark the waiter was waiting for and exit the
wait loop.

What the wait_index does, is just a way to force all waiters out of the wait
loop regardless of the watermark the waiter is waiting for. Before a waiter
goes into the wait loop, it saves the current wait_index. The waker will
increment the wait_index and then call the same irq_work to wake up all the
waiters.

After the wakeup happens, the waiter will test if the new wait_index
matches what it was before it entered the loop, and if it is different, it
falls out of the loop. Then the caller of the ring_buffer_wait() can
re-evaluate if it needs to enter the wait again.

The wait_index loop exit was needed for when the file descriptor of a file
that uses a ring buffer closes and it needs to wake up all the readers of
that file descriptor to notify their tasks that the file closed.

So we can switch the:

	rbwork->wait_index++;
	smp_wmb();

into just a:

	(void)atomic_inc_return_release(&rbwork->wait_index);

and the:

	smp_rmb()
	if (wait_index != work->wait_index)

into:

	if (wait_index != atomic_read_acquire(&rb->wait_index))

I'll write up a patch.

Hmm, I have the same wait_index logic at the higher level doing basically
the same thing (at the close of the file). I'll switch that over too.

-- Steve

  reply	other threads:[~2024-03-07 13:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-03-04 10:54 linke li
2024-03-04 16:19 ` Joel Fernandes
2024-03-04 17:14   ` Paul E. McKenney
2024-03-04 19:10     ` Joel Fernandes
2024-03-04 19:44       ` Paul E. McKenney
2024-03-04 20:13         ` Joel Fernandes
2024-03-04 20:47           ` Paul E. McKenney
2024-03-05  3:30             ` linke
2024-03-05  6:24   ` linke li
2024-03-06 15:37     ` Steven Rostedt
2024-03-06 17:36       ` Paul E. McKenney
2024-03-06 18:01         ` Steven Rostedt
2024-03-06 18:09           ` Paul E. McKenney
2024-03-06 18:20             ` Steven Rostedt
2024-03-06 18:43           ` Linus Torvalds
2024-03-06 18:55             ` Steven Rostedt
2024-03-06 19:01               ` Linus Torvalds
2024-03-06 19:27                 ` Linus Torvalds
2024-03-06 19:47                   ` Steven Rostedt
2024-03-06 20:06                     ` Linus Torvalds
2024-03-07 13:20                       ` Steven Rostedt [this message]
2024-03-07 16:12                         ` Steven Rostedt
2024-03-06 19:27                 ` Steven Rostedt
2024-03-06 19:46                   ` Linus Torvalds
2024-03-06 20:20                     ` Linus Torvalds
2024-03-07  2:29                     ` Paul E. McKenney
2024-03-07  2:43                       ` Linus Torvalds
2024-03-07  2:49                         ` Linus Torvalds
2024-03-07  3:21                           ` Paul E. McKenney
2024-03-07  3:06                         ` Paul E. McKenney
2024-03-07  3:06                         ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2024-03-07  3:37                           ` Paul E. McKenney
2024-03-07  5:44                             ` Joel Fernandes
2024-03-07 19:05                               ` Paul E. McKenney
2024-03-07 13:53                             ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2024-03-07 19:47                               ` Paul E. McKenney
2024-03-07 19:53                                 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2024-03-08  0:58                                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2024-03-07 20:00                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2024-03-07 20:57                                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2024-03-07 21:40                                     ` Julia Lawall
2024-03-07 22:09                                       ` Linus Torvalds
2024-03-08  0:55                                         ` Paul E. McKenney

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