From: Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>, paulmck@kernel.org
Cc: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>, linke li <lilinke99@qq.com>,
joel@joelfernandes.org, boqun.feng@gmail.com, dave@stgolabs.net,
frederic@kernel.org, jiangshanlai@gmail.com,
josh@joshtriplett.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
qiang.zhang1211@gmail.com, quic_neeraju@quicinc.com,
rcu@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] rcutorture: Fix rcu_torture_pipe_update_one()/rcu_torture_writer() data race and concurrency bug
Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2024 22:06:21 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <851dc594-d2ea-4050-b7c6-e33a1cddf3a1@efficios.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAHk-=wiX_zF5Mpt8kUm_LFQpYY-mshrXJPOe+wKNwiVhEUcU9g@mail.gmail.com>
On 2024-03-06 21:43, Linus Torvalds wrote:
[...]
>
> Honestly, this all makes me think that we'd be *much* better off
> showing the real "handoff" with smp_store_release() and
> smp_load_acquire().
We've done something similar in liburcu (userspace code) to allow
Thread Sanitizer to understand the happens-before relationships
within the RCU implementations and lock-free data structures.
Moving to load-acquire/store-release (C11 model in our case)
allowed us to provide enough happens-before relationship for
Thread Sanitizer to understand what is happening under the
hood in liburcu and perform relevant race detection of user
code.
As far as the WRITE_ONCE(x, READ_ONCE(x) + 1) pattern
is concerned, the only valid use-case I can think of is
split counters or RCU implementations where there is a
single updater doing the increment, and one or more
concurrent reader threads that need to snapshot a
consistent value with READ_ONCE().
Thanks,
Mathieu
--
Mathieu Desnoyers
EfficiOS Inc.
https://www.efficios.com
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-03-07 3:06 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-03-04 10:54 linke li
2024-03-04 16:19 ` Joel Fernandes
2024-03-04 17:14 ` Paul E. McKenney
2024-03-04 19:10 ` Joel Fernandes
2024-03-04 19:44 ` Paul E. McKenney
2024-03-04 20:13 ` Joel Fernandes
2024-03-04 20:47 ` Paul E. McKenney
2024-03-05 3:30 ` linke
2024-03-05 6:24 ` linke li
2024-03-06 15:37 ` Steven Rostedt
2024-03-06 17:36 ` Paul E. McKenney
2024-03-06 18:01 ` Steven Rostedt
2024-03-06 18:09 ` Paul E. McKenney
2024-03-06 18:20 ` Steven Rostedt
2024-03-06 18:43 ` Linus Torvalds
2024-03-06 18:55 ` Steven Rostedt
2024-03-06 19:01 ` Linus Torvalds
2024-03-06 19:27 ` Linus Torvalds
2024-03-06 19:47 ` Steven Rostedt
2024-03-06 20:06 ` Linus Torvalds
2024-03-07 13:20 ` Steven Rostedt
2024-03-07 16:12 ` Steven Rostedt
2024-03-06 19:27 ` Steven Rostedt
2024-03-06 19:46 ` Linus Torvalds
2024-03-06 20:20 ` Linus Torvalds
2024-03-07 2:29 ` Paul E. McKenney
2024-03-07 2:43 ` Linus Torvalds
2024-03-07 2:49 ` Linus Torvalds
2024-03-07 3:21 ` Paul E. McKenney
2024-03-07 3:06 ` Paul E. McKenney
2024-03-07 3:06 ` Mathieu Desnoyers [this message]
2024-03-07 3:37 ` Paul E. McKenney
2024-03-07 5:44 ` Joel Fernandes
2024-03-07 19:05 ` Paul E. McKenney
2024-03-07 13:53 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2024-03-07 19:47 ` Paul E. McKenney
2024-03-07 19:53 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2024-03-08 0:58 ` Paul E. McKenney
2024-03-07 20:00 ` Linus Torvalds
2024-03-07 20:57 ` Paul E. McKenney
2024-03-07 21:40 ` Julia Lawall
2024-03-07 22:09 ` Linus Torvalds
2024-03-08 0:55 ` Paul E. McKenney
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