From: Qais Yousef <qyousef@layalina.io>
To: Dietmar Eggemann <dietmar.eggemann@arm.com>
Cc: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael@kernel.org>,
Viresh Kumar <viresh.kumar@linaro.org>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>,
Juri Lelli <juri.lelli@redhat.com>,
Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
Ben Segall <bsegall@google.com>, Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>,
Daniel Bristot de Oliveira <bristot@redhat.com>,
Valentin Schneider <vschneid@redhat.com>,
Christian Loehle <christian.loehle@arm.com>,
Hongyan Xia <hongyan.xia2@arm.com>,
John Stultz <jstultz@google.com>,
linux-pm@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v6] sched: Consolidate cpufreq updates
Date: Sun, 28 Jul 2024 20:29:13 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20240728192913.ocesyzgsmcu632ds@airbuntu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <962a0fe6-c6bf-415a-9c57-ecb259bd0066@arm.com>
On 07/27/24 10:15, Dietmar Eggemann wrote:
> On 24/07/2024 23:10, Qais Yousef wrote:
> > On 07/05/24 13:50, Dietmar Eggemann wrote:
>
> [...]
>
> >> I tried to explained it in the 4 lines below. With a local 'decayed'
> >> update_cfs_rq_load_avg() and propagate_entity_load_avg() set it every
> >> time update_load_avg() gets called. And this then determines whether
> >> update_tg_load_avg() is called on this cfs_rq later in update_load_avg().
> >>
> >> The new code:
> >>
> >> cfs_rq->decayed |= update_cfs_rq_load_avg() (*)
> >> cfs_rq->decayed |= propagate_entity_load_avg()
> >>
> >> will not reset 'cfs_rq->decayed' for non-root cfs_rq's.
> >>
> >> (*) You changed this in v3 from:
> >>
> >> cfs_rq->decayed = update_cfs_rq_load_avg()
> >>
> >>
> >>>> update_load_avg() itself. They will stay decayed after cfs_rq->decayed
> >>>> has been set to 1 once and will never be reset to 0. So with UPDATE_TG
> >>>> update_tg_load_avg() will then always be called on those non-root
> >>>> cfs_rq's all the time.
> >>>
> >>> We could add a check to update only the root cfs_rq. But what do we gain? Or
> >>> IOW, what is the harm of unconditionally updating cfs_rq->decayed given that we
> >>> only care about the root cfs_rq? I see more if conditions and branches which
> >>> I am trying to avoid.
> >>
> >> Yes, keep 'decayed' local and add a:
> >>
> >> if (cfs_rq == &rq_of(cfs_rq)->cfs)
> >> cfs_rq->decayed = decayed
> >
> > I still don't see a problem here. If we don't do it this way, how the outcome
> > of frequency selection will change? You're replacing set-but-not-cleared with
> > never-set, and un unconditional write with a branch.
>
> This seems to be a misunderstanding. The problem is not with the
> frequency selection.
>
> The issue I see is when you set 'cfs_rq->decayed' for a non-root cfs_rq
> it stays set forever since there is no code to reset it. This leads to
> the fact that update_tg_load_avg(..., UPDATE_TG) is then always called
> for this cfs_rq within update_load_avg() whereas before 'decayed' was
> evaluated with each invocation of update_load_avg().
Ah I see you're talking about the if condition. I got you now, sorry it took
a while :). Yes this was wrong. I did follow your advice anyway and changed it
as you suggested in v7.
Thanks!
--
Qais Yousef
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-07-28 19:29 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-06-19 20:14 Qais Yousef
2024-06-25 12:58 ` Dietmar Eggemann
2024-06-28 1:52 ` Qais Yousef
2024-07-04 10:12 ` Dietmar Eggemann
2024-07-05 0:22 ` Qais Yousef
2024-07-05 11:50 ` Dietmar Eggemann
2024-07-09 7:49 ` Vincent Guittot
2024-07-24 21:10 ` Qais Yousef
2024-07-27 8:15 ` Dietmar Eggemann
2024-07-28 19:29 ` Qais Yousef [this message]
2024-07-09 7:48 ` Vincent Guittot
2024-07-10 16:22 ` Dietmar Eggemann
2024-07-24 21:22 ` Qais Yousef
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