From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
Cc: "Sebastian Andrzej Siewior" <bigeasy@linutronix.de>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
"André Almeida" <andrealmeid@igalia.com>,
"Darren Hart" <dvhart@infradead.org>,
"Davidlohr Bueso" <dave@stgolabs.net>,
"Ingo Molnar" <mingo@redhat.com>,
"Juri Lelli" <juri.lelli@redhat.com>,
"Valentin Schneider" <vschneid@redhat.com>,
"Waiman Long" <longman@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 2/3] futex: Add basic infrastructure for local task local hash.
Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2024 12:00:35 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20241028110035.GQ9767@noisy.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87y128335h.ffs@tglx>
On Mon, Oct 28, 2024 at 11:58:18AM +0100, Thomas Gleixner wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 28 2024 at 11:30, Sebastian Andrzej Siewior wrote:
> > On 2024-10-27 13:19:54 [+0100], Thomas Gleixner wrote:
> >> So T1 and T2 create their local hash and the subsequent usage will fail
> >> because they operate on different hashs. You have the same problem
> >> vs. your allocation scheme when two threads do prctl(ALLOC). We really
> >> want to make this as simple as possible.
> >
> > So I moved this to struct signal_struct and limited allocation to the
> > group leader.
> >
> > You want automated creation of this? For everyone or with a hint? This
> > is 64 bytes per slot due to the cache alignment but event without this
> > struct takes 56 bytes on PREEMPT_RT and 24 bytes on non-RT. So the four
> > slots are 256 bytes. Assuming 2.5k tasks it takes 625 KiB. Maybe not
> > that much.
> >
> > Let me post v2 the signal_struct and then think about auto ON.
>
> It only affects actual futex users. A lot of executables never use
> them. For ease of testing, can you please make this automatic so there
> is no need to modify a test case?
>
> Aside of that for RT we really want it automatically enabled and as
> Linus suggested back then probably for NUMA too.
>
> Stick a trace point or a debugfs counter into the allocation so you can
> observe how many of those are actually allocated and used concurrently.
Ideally it would re-hash and auto-scale to something like 4*nr_threads,
but I realize that's probably a pain in the arse to make happen.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-10-28 11:00 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-10-26 22:34 [RFC PATCH 0/3] futex: Add support task local hash maps Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2024-10-26 22:34 ` [RFC PATCH 1/3] futex: Create helper function to initialize a hash slot Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2024-10-26 22:34 ` [RFC PATCH 2/3] futex: Add basic infrastructure for local task local hash Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2024-10-27 12:19 ` Thomas Gleixner
2024-10-28 10:30 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2024-10-28 10:58 ` Thomas Gleixner
2024-10-28 11:00 ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2024-10-28 12:02 ` Thomas Gleixner
2024-10-30 21:08 ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-10-30 23:14 ` Thomas Gleixner
2024-10-31 9:13 ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-10-28 10:16 ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-10-28 10:24 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2024-10-28 10:46 ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-10-28 13:10 ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-10-26 22:34 ` [RFC PATCH 3/3] futex: Use the task local hashmap Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2024-10-28 10:22 ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-10-28 10:24 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2024-10-27 10:01 ` [RFC PATCH 0/3] futex: Add support task local hash maps Thomas Gleixner
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