From: Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>
To: Song Liu <songliubraving@meta.com>
Cc: Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>, Song Liu <song@kernel.org>,
bpf <bpf@vger.kernel.org>,
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Josef Bacik <josef@toxicpanda.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC bpf-next fanotify 1/5] fanotify: Introduce fanotify fastpath handler
Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2024 15:09:25 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20241111140925.ykmdp3oywuw2ut5p@quack3> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <AE6EEE9B-B84F-4097-859B-B4509F2B6AF8@fb.com>
On Thu 07-11-24 19:13:23, Song Liu wrote:
> > On Nov 7, 2024, at 2:48 AM, Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz> wrote:
> > On Tue 29-10-24 16:12:40, Song Liu wrote:
> >> fanotify fastpath handler enables handling fanotify events within the
> >> kernel, and thus saves a trip to the user space. fanotify fastpath handler
> >> can be useful in many use cases. For example, if a user is only interested
> >> in events for some files in side a directory, a fastpath handler can be
> >> used to filter out irrelevant events.
> >>
> >> fanotify fastpath handler is attached to fsnotify_group. At most one
> >> fastpath handler can be attached to a fsnotify_group. The attach/detach
> >> of fastpath handlers are controlled by two new ioctls on the fanotify fds:
> >> FAN_IOC_ADD_FP and FAN_IOC_DEL_FP.
> >>
> >> fanotify fastpath handler is packaged in a kernel module. In the future,
> >> it is also possible to package fastpath handler in a BPF program. Since
> >> loading modules requires CAP_SYS_ADMIN, _loading_ fanotify fastpath
> >> handler in kernel modules is limited to CAP_SYS_ADMIN. However,
> >> non-SYS_CAP_ADMIN users can _attach_ fastpath handler loaded by sys admin
> >> to their fanotify fds. To make fanotify fastpath handler more useful
> >> for non-CAP_SYS_ADMIN users, a fastpath handler can take arguments at
> >> attach time.
> >
> > Hum, I'm not sure I'd be fine as an sysadmin to allow arbitary users to
> > attach arbitrary filters to their groups. I might want some filters for
> > priviledged programs which know what they are doing (e.g. because the
> > filters are expensive) and other filters may be fine for anybody. But
> > overall I'd think we'll soon hit requirements for permission control over
> > who can attach what... Somebody must have created a solution for this
> > already?
>
> I have "flags" in fanotify_fastpath_ops. In an earlier version of my
> local code, I actually have "SYS_ADMIN_ONLY" flag that specifies some
> filters are only available to users with CAP_SYS_ADMIN. I removed this
> flag later before sending the first RFC for simplicity.
>
> The model here (fast path loaded in kernel modules) is similar to
> different TCP congestion control algorithms. Regular user can choose
> which algorithm to use for each TCP connection. This model is
> straightforward because the kernel modules are global. With BPF, we
> have the option not to add the fast path to a global list, so that
> whoever loads the fast path can attach it to specific group (I didn't
> include this model in the RFC).
>
> For the first version, I think a SYS_ADMIN_ONLY flag would be good
> enough?
Yes, initially that should be enough.
Honza
--
Jan Kara <jack@suse.com>
SUSE Labs, CR
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-11-11 14:09 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-10-29 23:12 [RFC bpf-next fanotify 0/5] Fanotify " Song Liu
2024-10-29 23:12 ` [RFC bpf-next fanotify 1/5] fanotify: Introduce fanotify " Song Liu
2024-10-30 12:45 ` Jeff Layton
2024-11-07 10:48 ` Jan Kara
2024-11-07 19:13 ` Song Liu
2024-11-11 14:09 ` Jan Kara [this message]
2024-10-29 23:12 ` [RFC bpf-next fanotify 2/5] samples/fanotify: Add a sample " Song Liu
2024-10-30 0:11 ` Al Viro
2024-10-30 1:48 ` Al Viro
2024-10-30 2:07 ` Song Liu
2024-10-30 2:35 ` Song Liu
2024-10-30 13:03 ` Jeff Layton
2024-10-30 20:30 ` Song Liu
2024-10-31 0:23 ` Jeff Layton
2024-10-31 1:52 ` Song Liu
2024-11-06 19:40 ` Amir Goldstein
2024-11-06 22:10 ` Song Liu
2024-11-07 10:41 ` Jan Kara
2024-11-07 19:39 ` Song Liu
2024-11-07 11:19 ` Amir Goldstein
2024-11-07 19:39 ` Song Liu
2024-10-29 23:12 ` [RFC bpf-next fanotify 3/5] bpf: Make bpf inode storage available to tracing programs Song Liu
2024-10-29 23:12 ` [RFC bpf-next fanotify 4/5] fanotify: Enable bpf based fanotify fastpath handler Song Liu
2024-10-29 23:12 ` [RFC bpf-next fanotify 5/5] selftests/bpf: Add test for BPF " Song Liu
2024-11-07 11:10 ` Amir Goldstein
2024-11-07 19:53 ` Song Liu
2024-11-07 20:33 ` Amir Goldstein
2024-11-07 20:48 ` Song Liu
2024-11-08 8:18 ` Amir Goldstein
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