From: Song Liu <songliubraving@meta.com>
To: Amir Goldstein <amir73il@gmail.com>
Cc: Song Liu <songliubraving@meta.com>,
Jeff Layton <jlayton@kernel.org>, Song Liu <song@kernel.org>,
bpf <bpf@vger.kernel.org>,
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Eduard Zingerman <eddyz87@gmail.com>,
Alexei Starovoitov <ast@kernel.org>,
Daniel Borkmann <daniel@iogearbox.net>,
Martin KaFai Lau <martin.lau@linux.dev>,
Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
Christian Brauner <brauner@kernel.org>, Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>,
KP Singh <kpsingh@kernel.org>,
Matt Bobrowski <mattbobrowski@google.com>,
"repnop@google.com" <repnop@google.com>,
Josef Bacik <josef@toxicpanda.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC bpf-next fanotify 2/5] samples/fanotify: Add a sample fanotify fastpath handler
Date: Thu, 7 Nov 2024 19:39:12 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <A6B3F486-6392-4A07-85B9-84FD6AA71F97@fb.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAOQ4uxgyC=h4+kXvem8nDf0Niu-HgswoamxYnFXz03K5dFe6Zw@mail.gmail.com>
> On Nov 7, 2024, at 3:19 AM, Amir Goldstein <amir73il@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On Thu, Oct 31, 2024 at 2:52 AM Song Liu <songliubraving@meta.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Jeff,
>>
>>> On Oct 30, 2024, at 5:23 PM, Jeff Layton <jlayton@kernel.org> wrote:
>>
>> [...]
>>
>>>> If the subtree is all in the same file system, we can attach fanotify to
>>>> the whole file system, and then use some dget_parent() and follow_up()
>>>> to walk up the directory tree in the fastpath handler. However, if there
>>>> are other mount points in the subtree, we will need more logic to handle
>>>> these mount points.
>>>>
>>>
>>> My 2 cents...
>>>
>>> I'd just confine it to a single vfsmount. If you want to monitor in
>>> several submounts, then you need to add new fanotify watches.
>>>
>>> Alternately, maybe there is some way to designate that an entire
>>> vfsmount is a child of a watched (or ignored) directory?
>>>
>>>> @Christian, I would like to know your thoughts on this (walking up the
>>>> directory tree in fanotify fastpath handler). It can be expensive for
>>>> very very deep subtree.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I'm not Christian, but I'll make the case for it. It's basically a
>>> bunch of pointer chasing. That's probably not "cheap", but if you can
>>> do it under RCU it might not be too awful. It might still suck with
>>> really deep paths, but this is a sample module. It's not expected that
>>> everyone will want to use it anyway.
>>
>> Thanks for the suggestion! I will try to do it under RCU.
>>
>>>
>>>> How should we pass in the subtree? I guess we can just use full path in
>>>> a string as the argument.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I'd stay away from string parsing. How about this instead?
>>>
>>> Allow a process to open a directory fd, and then hand that fd to an
>>> fanotify ioctl that says that you want to ignore everything that has
>>> that directory as an ancestor. Or, maybe make it so that you only watch
>>> dentries that have that directory as an ancestor? I'm not sure what
>>> makes the most sense.
>>
>> Yes, directory fd is another option. Currently, the "attach to group"
>> function only takes a string as input. I guess it makes sense to allow
>> taking a fd, or maybe we should allow any random format (pass in a
>> pointer to a structure. Let me give it a try.
>>
>
> IIUC, the BFP program example uses another API to configure the filter
> (i.e. the inode map).
With BPF, the users can configure the filter via different BPF maps.
The inode map is just one example, we can also use task map to create
a different filter for each task (task that generates the event).
> IMO, passing any single argument during setup time is not scalable
> and any filter should have its own way to reconfigure its parameters
> in runtime (i.e. add/remove watched subtree).
>
> Assuming that the same module/bfp_prog serves multiple fanotify
> groups and each group may have a different filter config, I think that
> passing an integer arg to identify the config (be it fd or something else)
> is the most we need for this minimal API.
> If we need something more elaborate, we can extend the ioctl size
> or add a new ioctl later.
With my local code, which is slightly different to the RFC, I have
the ioctl pass in a pointer to fanotify_fastpath_args.
struct fanotify_fastpath_args {
char name[FAN_FP_NAME_MAX];
__u32 version;
__u32 flags;
/*
* user space pointer to the init args of fastpath handler,
* up to init_args_len (<= FAN_FP_ARGS_MAX).
*/
__u64 init_args;
/* size of init_args */
__u32 init_args_size;
} __attribute__((__packed__));
fanotify_fastpath_args->init_args is a user pointer to a custom (per
fast path) structure. Then fanotify_fastpath_args->init_args will be
passed to fanotify_fastpath_ops->fp_init().
I think this is flexible enough for the "attach fast path to a group"
operation. If we want to reconfigure the fast path later, we may
need another API.
Thanks,
Song
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-11-07 19:39 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-10-29 23:12 [RFC bpf-next fanotify 0/5] Fanotify " Song Liu
2024-10-29 23:12 ` [RFC bpf-next fanotify 1/5] fanotify: Introduce fanotify " Song Liu
2024-10-30 12:45 ` Jeff Layton
2024-11-07 10:48 ` Jan Kara
2024-11-07 19:13 ` Song Liu
2024-11-11 14:09 ` Jan Kara
2024-10-29 23:12 ` [RFC bpf-next fanotify 2/5] samples/fanotify: Add a sample " Song Liu
2024-10-30 0:11 ` Al Viro
2024-10-30 1:48 ` Al Viro
2024-10-30 2:07 ` Song Liu
2024-10-30 2:35 ` Song Liu
2024-10-30 13:03 ` Jeff Layton
2024-10-30 20:30 ` Song Liu
2024-10-31 0:23 ` Jeff Layton
2024-10-31 1:52 ` Song Liu
2024-11-06 19:40 ` Amir Goldstein
2024-11-06 22:10 ` Song Liu
2024-11-07 10:41 ` Jan Kara
2024-11-07 19:39 ` Song Liu
2024-11-07 11:19 ` Amir Goldstein
2024-11-07 19:39 ` Song Liu [this message]
2024-10-29 23:12 ` [RFC bpf-next fanotify 3/5] bpf: Make bpf inode storage available to tracing programs Song Liu
2024-10-29 23:12 ` [RFC bpf-next fanotify 4/5] fanotify: Enable bpf based fanotify fastpath handler Song Liu
2024-10-29 23:12 ` [RFC bpf-next fanotify 5/5] selftests/bpf: Add test for BPF " Song Liu
2024-11-07 11:10 ` Amir Goldstein
2024-11-07 19:53 ` Song Liu
2024-11-07 20:33 ` Amir Goldstein
2024-11-07 20:48 ` Song Liu
2024-11-08 8:18 ` Amir Goldstein
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