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* [PATCH v3 0/2] Optionally allow ttynull to be selected as a default console
@ 2025-02-23  5:14 adamsimonelli
  2025-02-23  5:14 ` [PATCH v3 1/2] ttynull: Add an option to allow ttynull to be used as a console device adamsimonelli
  2025-02-23  5:14 ` [PATCH v3 2/2] tty: Change order of ttynull to be linked sooner if enabled as a console adamsimonelli
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 3+ messages in thread
From: adamsimonelli @ 2025-02-23  5:14 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: linux-serial, linux-kernel, Jiri Slaby, Greg Kroah-Hartman; +Cc: Adam Simonelli

From: Adam Simonelli <adamsimonelli@gmail.com>

When switching to a CONFIG_VT=n world, at least on x86 systems,
/dev/console becomes /dev/ttyS0. This can cause some undesired effects.
/dev/console's behavior is now tied to the physical /dev/ttyS0, which when
disconnected can cause isatty() to fail when /dev/ttyS0 is disconnected,
and users who upgrade to a theoretical vt-less kernel from their
distribution who have a device such as a science instrument connected to
their /dev/ttyS0 port will suddenly see it receive kernel log messages.

When the new CONFIG_NULL_TTY_CONSOLE option is turned on, this will allow
the ttynull device to be leveraged as the default console. Distributions
that had CONFIG_VT turned on before will be able to leverage this option
to where /dev/console is still backed by a psuedo device, avoiding these
issues, without needing to enable the entire VT subsystem.

Adam Simonelli (2):
  ttynull: Add an option to allow ttynull to be used as a console device
  tty: Change order of ttynull to be linked sooner if enabled as a
    console.

 drivers/tty/Kconfig   | 15 ++++++++++++++-
 drivers/tty/Makefile  | 10 ++++++++++
 drivers/tty/ttynull.c | 20 +++++++++++++++++++-
 3 files changed, 43 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)

-- 
2.45.2


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* [PATCH v3 1/2] ttynull: Add an option to allow ttynull to be used as a console device
  2025-02-23  5:14 [PATCH v3 0/2] Optionally allow ttynull to be selected as a default console adamsimonelli
@ 2025-02-23  5:14 ` adamsimonelli
  2025-02-23  5:14 ` [PATCH v3 2/2] tty: Change order of ttynull to be linked sooner if enabled as a console adamsimonelli
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 3+ messages in thread
From: adamsimonelli @ 2025-02-23  5:14 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: linux-serial, linux-kernel, Jiri Slaby, Greg Kroah-Hartman; +Cc: Adam Simonelli

From: Adam Simonelli <adamsimonelli@gmail.com>

The new config option, CONFIG_NULL_TTY_CONSOLE will allow ttynull to be
initialized by console_initcall() and selected as a possible console
device.

Signed-off-by: Adam Simonelli <adamsimonelli@gmail.com>
---
 drivers/tty/Kconfig   | 15 ++++++++++++++-
 drivers/tty/ttynull.c | 20 +++++++++++++++++++-
 2 files changed, 33 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)

diff --git a/drivers/tty/Kconfig b/drivers/tty/Kconfig
index 63a494d36a1f..b4afae8b0e74 100644
--- a/drivers/tty/Kconfig
+++ b/drivers/tty/Kconfig
@@ -383,7 +383,20 @@ config NULL_TTY
 	  available or desired.
 
 	  In order to use this driver, you should redirect the console to this
-	  TTY, or boot the kernel with console=ttynull.
+	  TTY, boot the kernel with console=ttynull, or enable
+	  CONFIG_NULL_TTY_CONSOLE.
+
+	  If unsure, say N.
+
+config NULL_TTY_CONSOLE
+        bool "Support for console on ttynull"
+        depends on NULL_TTY=y && !VT_CONSOLE
+	help
+	  Say Y here if you want the NULL TTY to be used as a /dev/console
+	  device.
+
+	  This is similar to CONFIG_VT_CONSOLE, but without the dependency on
+	  CONFIG_VT. It uses the ttynull driver as the system console.
 
 	  If unsure, say N.
 
diff --git a/drivers/tty/ttynull.c b/drivers/tty/ttynull.c
index 6b2f7208b564..ec3dd3fd41c0 100644
--- a/drivers/tty/ttynull.c
+++ b/drivers/tty/ttynull.c
@@ -57,6 +57,13 @@ static struct tty_driver *ttynull_device(struct console *c, int *index)
 static struct console ttynull_console = {
 	.name = "ttynull",
 	.device = ttynull_device,
+
+	/*
+	 * Match the index and flags from other boot consoles when CONFIG_NULL_TTY_CONSOLE is
+	 * enabled, otherwise, use the default values for the index and flags.
+	*/
+	.index = IS_ENABLED(CONFIG_NULL_TTY_CONSOLE) ? -1 : 0,
+	.flags = IS_ENABLED(CONFIG_NULL_TTY_CONSOLE) ? CON_PRINTBUFFER : 0,
 };
 
 static int __init ttynull_init(void)
@@ -90,11 +97,22 @@ static int __init ttynull_init(void)
 	}
 
 	ttynull_driver = driver;
-	register_console(&ttynull_console);
+	if (!console_is_registered(&ttynull_console))
+		register_console(&ttynull_console);
 
 	return 0;
 }
 
+#ifdef CONFIG_NULL_TTY_CONSOLE
+static int __init ttynull_register(void)
+{
+	if (!console_is_registered(&ttynull_console))
+		register_console(&ttynull_console);
+	return 0;
+}
+console_initcall(ttynull_register);
+#endif
+
 static void __exit ttynull_exit(void)
 {
 	unregister_console(&ttynull_console);
-- 
2.45.2


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* [PATCH v3 2/2] tty: Change order of ttynull to be linked sooner if enabled as a console.
  2025-02-23  5:14 [PATCH v3 0/2] Optionally allow ttynull to be selected as a default console adamsimonelli
  2025-02-23  5:14 ` [PATCH v3 1/2] ttynull: Add an option to allow ttynull to be used as a console device adamsimonelli
@ 2025-02-23  5:14 ` adamsimonelli
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 3+ messages in thread
From: adamsimonelli @ 2025-02-23  5:14 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: linux-serial, linux-kernel, Jiri Slaby, Greg Kroah-Hartman; +Cc: Adam Simonelli

From: Adam Simonelli <adamsimonelli@gmail.com>

If CONFIG_NULL_TTY_CONSOLE is enabled, and CONFIG_VT is disabled, ttynull
will become the default primary console device, based on the link order.

Many distributions ship with CONFIG_VT enabled. On tested desktop hardware
if CONFIG_VT is disabled, the default console device falls back to
/dev/ttyS0 instead of /dev/tty.

This could cause issues in user space, and hardware problems:

1. The user space issues include the case where  /dev/ttyS0 is
disconnected, and the TCGETS ioctl, which some user space libraries use
as a probe to determine if a file is a tty, is called on /dev/console and
fails. Programs that call isatty() on /dev/console and get an incorrect
false value may skip expected logging to /dev/console

2. The hardware issues include the case if a user has a science instrument
or other device connected to the /dev/ttyS0 port, and they were to upgrade
to a kernel that is disabling the CONFIG_VT option, kernel logs will then be
sent to the device connected to /dev/ttyS0 unless they edit their kernel
command line manually.

The new CONFIG_NULL_TTY_CONSOLE option will give users and distribution
maintainers an option to avoid this. Disabling CONFIG_VT and enabling
CONFIG_NULL_TTY_CONSOLE will ensure the default kernel console behavior
is not dependant on hardware configuration by default, and avoid
unexpected new behavior on devices connected to the /dev/ttyS0 serial
port.

Signed-off-by: Adam Simonelli <adamsimonelli@gmail.com>
---
 drivers/tty/Makefile | 10 ++++++++++
 1 file changed, 10 insertions(+)

diff --git a/drivers/tty/Makefile b/drivers/tty/Makefile
index 07aca5184a55..1a1051ecb1af 100644
--- a/drivers/tty/Makefile
+++ b/drivers/tty/Makefile
@@ -11,6 +11,10 @@ obj-$(CONFIG_N_HDLC)		+= n_hdlc.o
 obj-$(CONFIG_N_GSM)		+= n_gsm.o
 
 obj-y				+= vt/
+#If ttynull is configured to be a console by default, ensure that it is linked
+#earlier before a real one is selected.
+obj-$(CONFIG_NULL_TTY_CONSOLE)	+= ttynull.o
+
 obj-$(CONFIG_HVC_DRIVER)	+= hvc/
 obj-y				+= serial/
 obj-$(CONFIG_SERIAL_DEV_BUS)	+= serdev/
@@ -20,7 +24,13 @@ obj-$(CONFIG_AMIGA_BUILTIN_SERIAL) += amiserial.o
 obj-$(CONFIG_MOXA_INTELLIO)	+= moxa.o
 obj-$(CONFIG_MOXA_SMARTIO)	+= mxser.o
 obj-$(CONFIG_NOZOMI)		+= nozomi.o
+
+#If ttynull is enabled, but not as a boot console, it is linked and used later
+#after the real ones.
+ifneq ($(CONFIG_NULL_TTY_CONSOLE),y)
 obj-$(CONFIG_NULL_TTY)	        += ttynull.o
+endif
+
 obj-$(CONFIG_SYNCLINK_GT)	+= synclink_gt.o
 obj-$(CONFIG_PPC_EPAPR_HV_BYTECHAN) += ehv_bytechan.o
 obj-$(CONFIG_GOLDFISH_TTY)	+= goldfish.o
-- 
2.45.2


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