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From: Pawan Gupta <pawan.kumar.gupta@linux.intel.com>
To: Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@kernel.org>
Cc: "Kaplan, David" <David.Kaplan@amd.com>,
	Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>,
	"x86@kernel.org" <x86@kernel.org>,
	"H . Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 20/35] x86/bugs: Define attack vectors
Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2025 19:50:38 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20250227034813.booxbhxnff66dnqx@desk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250227012329.vbwdmihjlqu6h5da@jpoimboe>

On Wed, Feb 26, 2025 at 05:23:29PM -0800, Josh Poimboeuf wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 26, 2025 at 04:35:28PM -0800, Pawan Gupta wrote:
> > On Wed, Feb 26, 2025 at 03:44:40PM -0800, Josh Poimboeuf wrote:
> > > On Wed, Feb 26, 2025 at 02:13:24PM -0800, Pawan Gupta wrote:
> > > > On Wed, Feb 26, 2025 at 09:03:58PM +0000, Kaplan, David wrote:
> > > > > > Extending =auto to take attack vectors is going to be tricky, because it already
> > > > > > takes ",nosmt" which would conflict with ",no_cross_thread".
> > > > > >
> > > > > > How about we keep =off, and =auto as is, and add:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >   mitigations=selective,no_user_kernel,no_cross_thread,...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Requiring the user to explicitly select attack vectors to disable (rather than to
> > > > > > enable). This would be more verbose, but it would be clear that the user is explicitly
> > > > > > selecting attack vectors to disable. Also, if a new attack vector gets added in future,
> > > > > > it would be mitigated by default, without requiring the world to change their cmdline.
> > > > > 
> > > > > I kind of like that.
> > > 
> > > While it might be true that we don't necessarily need both opt-in and
> > > opt-out options...
> > > 
> > > I'm missing the point of the "selective" thing vs just
> > > "auto,no_whatever"?
> > 
> > That was my first thought, but then I realized that in "auto,nosmt" nosmt
> > is the opposite of disabling the mitigation. It would be cleaner to have
> > "=selective,no_whatever" which is self-explanatory.
> 
> The "auto,nosmt,no_whatever" is indeed a bit confusing because of the
> opposite meanings of the word "no", but least it sort of makes some
> kind of sense if you consider the existing "auto,nosmt" option to be the
> starting point.
> 
> And we could document it from that perspective: start with "auto" or
> "auto,smt" and then optionally append the ",no_*" options for the vectors
> you want to disable.
>
> IMO "selective" doesn't seem very self-explanatory, it says nothing to
> indicate "opting out of defaults", in fact it sounds to me more like
> opting in.  At least with "auto,no_whatever" it's more clear that it
> starts with the defaults and subtracts from there.

Thats fair. I certainly don't want to be adding new option if we are
willing to live with some minor quirks with auto,nosmt.

Like, should the order in which nosmt appears after =auto matter? IOW,
"=auto,no_foo,nosmt" would be equivalent to "=auto,nosmt,no_foo"? I believe
they should be treated the same.

Arches that don't support attack vectors, but support smt, should treat
"=auto,no_foo,nosmt" as "=auto,nosmt".

So as to treat nosmt as any other attack vector, CPU_MITIGATIONS_AUTO_NOSMT
should go away. I am thinking we can modify cpu_mitigations_auto_nosmt() to
check for smt attack vector:

---
diff --git a/kernel/cpu.c b/kernel/cpu.c
index b605334f8ee6..6ddbee6a0b6b 100644
--- a/kernel/cpu.c
+++ b/kernel/cpu.c
@@ -3193,22 +3193,27 @@ void __init boot_cpu_hotplug_init(void)
 enum cpu_mitigations {
 	CPU_MITIGATIONS_OFF,
 	CPU_MITIGATIONS_AUTO,
-	CPU_MITIGATIONS_AUTO_NOSMT,
 };
 
+#define MITIGATE_SMT            BIT(0)
+#define MITIGATE_USER_KERNEL    BIT(1)
+#define MITIGATE_USER_USER      BIT(2)
+#define MITIGATE_GUEST_HOST     BIT(3)
+
 static enum cpu_mitigations cpu_mitigations __ro_after_init = CPU_MITIGATIONS_AUTO;
+static unsigned int cpu_attack_vectors __ro_after_init = ~0;
 
 static int __init mitigations_parse_cmdline(char *arg)
 {
-	if (!strcmp(arg, "off"))
+	if (!strcmp(arg, "off")) {
 		cpu_mitigations = CPU_MITIGATIONS_OFF;
-	else if (!strcmp(arg, "auto"))
+	} else if (strstr(arg, "auto")) {
 		cpu_mitigations = CPU_MITIGATIONS_AUTO;
-	else if (!strcmp(arg, "auto,nosmt"))
-		cpu_mitigations = CPU_MITIGATIONS_AUTO_NOSMT;
-	else
+		cpu_attack_vectors = parse_cpu_attack_vectors(arg);
+	} else {
 		pr_crit("Unsupported mitigations=%s, system may still be vulnerable\n",
 			arg);
+	}
 
 	return 0;
 }
@@ -3223,7 +3228,7 @@ EXPORT_SYMBOL_GPL(cpu_mitigations_off);
 /* mitigations=auto,nosmt */
 bool cpu_mitigations_auto_nosmt(void)
 {
-	return cpu_mitigations == CPU_MITIGATIONS_AUTO_NOSMT;
+	return (cpu_mitigations == CPU_MITIGATIONS_AUTO) && (cpu_attack_vectors & MITIGATE_SMT);
 }
 EXPORT_SYMBOL_GPL(cpu_mitigations_auto_nosmt);
 #else

  reply	other threads:[~2025-02-27  3:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 138+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-01-08 20:24 [PATCH v3 00/35] x86/bugs: Attack vector controls David Kaplan
2025-01-08 20:24 ` [PATCH v3 01/35] x86/bugs: Add X86_BUG_SPECTRE_V2_USER David Kaplan
2025-02-28 11:53   ` [tip: x86/bugs] " tip-bot2 for David Kaplan
2025-01-08 20:24 ` [PATCH v3 02/35] x86/bugs: Relocate mds/taa/mmio/rfds defines David Kaplan
2025-02-28 11:53   ` [tip: x86/bugs] " tip-bot2 for David Kaplan
2025-01-08 20:24 ` [PATCH v3 03/35] x86/bugs: Add AUTO mitigations for mds/taa/mmio/rfds David Kaplan
2025-02-28 11:53   ` [tip: x86/bugs] " tip-bot2 for David Kaplan
2025-01-08 20:24 ` [PATCH v3 04/35] x86/bugs: Restructure mds mitigation David Kaplan
2025-02-10 16:13   ` Brendan Jackman
2025-02-10 17:17     ` Kaplan, David
2025-02-10 17:28       ` Brendan Jackman
2025-02-10 22:25   ` Josh Poimboeuf
2025-02-10 22:33     ` Kaplan, David
2025-01-08 20:24 ` [PATCH v3 05/35] x86/bugs: Restructure taa mitigation David Kaplan
2025-02-10 16:24   ` Brendan Jackman
2025-02-10 17:19     ` Kaplan, David
2025-02-10 22:50   ` Josh Poimboeuf
2025-02-11 17:17     ` Kaplan, David
2025-02-11 19:17       ` Josh Poimboeuf
2025-01-08 20:24 ` [PATCH v3 06/35] x86/bugs: Restructure mmio mitigation David Kaplan
2025-02-10 16:42   ` Brendan Jackman
2025-02-10 17:22     ` Kaplan, David
2025-02-10 17:35       ` Brendan Jackman
2025-02-10 23:29   ` Josh Poimboeuf
2025-02-11 20:35     ` Kaplan, David
2025-02-11 23:18       ` Josh Poimboeuf
2025-02-12 17:28         ` Kaplan, David
2025-02-12 23:16           ` Josh Poimboeuf
2025-02-19 18:20             ` Borislav Petkov
2025-02-21 21:48               ` Kaplan, David
2025-01-08 20:24 ` [PATCH v3 07/35] x86/bugs: Restructure rfds mitigation David Kaplan
2025-02-10 23:36   ` Josh Poimboeuf
2025-02-11 22:49     ` Kaplan, David
2025-01-08 20:24 ` [PATCH v3 08/35] x86/bugs: Remove md_clear_*_mitigation() David Kaplan
2025-01-08 20:24 ` [PATCH v3 09/35] x86/bugs: Restructure srbds mitigation David Kaplan
2025-02-10 23:44   ` Josh Poimboeuf
2025-02-11 22:59     ` Kaplan, David
2025-01-08 20:24 ` [PATCH v3 10/35] x86/bugs: Restructure gds mitigation David Kaplan
2025-02-10 17:06   ` Brendan Jackman
2025-02-10 17:27     ` Kaplan, David
2025-02-10 17:40       ` Brendan Jackman
2025-02-10 23:52   ` Josh Poimboeuf
2025-02-12 15:36     ` Kaplan, David
2025-01-08 20:24 ` [PATCH v3 11/35] x86/bugs: Restructure spectre_v1 mitigation David Kaplan
2025-01-08 20:24 ` [PATCH v3 12/35] x86/bugs: Restructure retbleed mitigation David Kaplan
2025-01-09  5:22   ` Pawan Gupta
2025-01-09 15:26     ` Kaplan, David
2025-01-09 16:40       ` Pawan Gupta
2025-01-09 16:42         ` Kaplan, David
2025-01-10 18:45     ` David Laight
2025-01-10 20:30       ` Pawan Gupta
2025-01-10 20:35         ` Borislav Petkov
2025-02-10 18:35   ` Brendan Jackman
2025-02-10 20:50     ` Kaplan, David
2025-02-11  0:10   ` Josh Poimboeuf
2025-02-24 15:45   ` Borislav Petkov
2025-02-24 15:59     ` Kaplan, David
2025-01-08 20:24 ` [PATCH v3 13/35] x86/bugs: Restructure spectre_v2_user mitigation David Kaplan
2025-02-11  0:53   ` Josh Poimboeuf
2025-02-12 15:59     ` Kaplan, David
2025-02-12 21:35       ` Josh Poimboeuf
2025-01-08 20:24 ` [PATCH v3 14/35] x86/bugs: Restructure bhi mitigation David Kaplan
2025-01-08 20:24 ` [PATCH v3 15/35] x86/bugs: Restructure spectre_v2 mitigation David Kaplan
2025-02-11  1:07   ` Josh Poimboeuf
2025-02-12 16:40     ` Kaplan, David
2025-01-08 20:24 ` [PATCH v3 16/35] x86/bugs: Restructure ssb mitigation David Kaplan
2025-02-11  1:10   ` Josh Poimboeuf
2025-02-12 16:45     ` Kaplan, David
2025-01-08 20:24 ` [PATCH v3 17/35] x86/bugs: Restructure l1tf mitigation David Kaplan
2025-02-11  1:21   ` Josh Poimboeuf
2025-02-12 16:47     ` Kaplan, David
2025-01-08 20:24 ` [PATCH v3 18/35] x86/bugs: Restructure srso mitigation David Kaplan
2025-02-11 16:39   ` Josh Poimboeuf
2025-02-12 17:01     ` Kaplan, David
2025-01-08 20:24 ` [PATCH v3 19/35] Documentation/x86: Document the new attack vector controls David Kaplan
2025-02-11 16:43   ` Josh Poimboeuf
2025-02-11 16:57     ` Kaplan, David
2025-01-08 20:25 ` [PATCH v3 20/35] x86/bugs: Define attack vectors David Kaplan
2025-02-11 18:07   ` Josh Poimboeuf
2025-02-12 17:20     ` Kaplan, David
2025-02-17 17:33       ` Kaplan, David
2025-02-17 20:19         ` Josh Poimboeuf
2025-02-17 20:38           ` Kaplan, David
2025-02-17 23:39             ` Josh Poimboeuf
2025-02-18  2:24               ` Kaplan, David
2025-02-18  7:05                 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2025-02-18  8:52                   ` Borislav Petkov
2025-02-20 22:04                     ` Josh Poimboeuf
2025-02-26 18:57                       ` Kaplan, David
2025-02-26 20:14                         ` Pawan Gupta
2025-02-26 21:01                           ` Borislav Petkov
2025-02-26 21:51                             ` Pawan Gupta
2025-02-27 13:39                               ` Borislav Petkov
2025-02-26 21:03                           ` Kaplan, David
2025-02-26 22:13                             ` Pawan Gupta
2025-02-26 22:18                               ` Kaplan, David
2025-02-26 22:34                                 ` Pawan Gupta
2025-02-26 23:44                               ` Josh Poimboeuf
2025-02-27  0:35                                 ` Pawan Gupta
2025-02-27  1:23                                   ` Josh Poimboeuf
2025-02-27  3:50                                     ` Pawan Gupta [this message]
2025-02-27 14:08                                       ` Borislav Petkov
2025-02-27 14:36                                         ` Kaplan, David
2025-02-27 15:01                                           ` Borislav Petkov
2025-02-27 15:22                                             ` Kaplan, David
2025-02-27 15:37                                               ` Borislav Petkov
2025-02-27 16:05                                                 ` Kaplan, David
2025-02-27 17:07                                                   ` Borislav Petkov
2025-01-08 20:25 ` [PATCH v3 21/35] x86/bugs: Determine relevant vulnerabilities based on attack vector controls David Kaplan
2025-01-09  3:43   ` Pawan Gupta
2025-01-09 15:08     ` Kaplan, David
2025-02-11 18:41   ` Josh Poimboeuf
2025-02-11 18:54     ` Josh Poimboeuf
2025-02-11 19:04       ` Kaplan, David
2025-02-11 20:34         ` Josh Poimboeuf
2025-02-11 20:53           ` Kaplan, David
2025-02-11 22:38             ` Josh Poimboeuf
2025-02-11 18:55     ` Kaplan, David
2025-01-08 20:25 ` [PATCH v3 22/35] x86/bugs: Add attack vector controls for mds David Kaplan
2025-01-08 20:25 ` [PATCH v3 23/35] x86/bugs: Add attack vector controls for taa David Kaplan
2025-02-11 19:01   ` Josh Poimboeuf
2025-01-08 20:25 ` [PATCH v3 24/35] x86/bugs: Add attack vector controls for mmio David Kaplan
2025-01-08 20:25 ` [PATCH v3 25/35] x86/bugs: Add attack vector controls for rfds David Kaplan
2025-01-08 20:25 ` [PATCH v3 26/35] x86/bugs: Add attack vector controls for srbds David Kaplan
2025-01-08 20:25 ` [PATCH v3 27/35] x86/bugs: Add attack vector controls for gds David Kaplan
2025-01-08 20:25 ` [PATCH v3 28/35] x86/bugs: Add attack vector controls for spectre_v1 David Kaplan
2025-01-08 20:25 ` [PATCH v3 29/35] x86/bugs: Add attack vector controls for retbleed David Kaplan
2025-01-08 20:25 ` [PATCH v3 30/35] x86/bugs: Add attack vector controls for spectre_v2_user David Kaplan
2025-02-11 19:03   ` Josh Poimboeuf
2025-02-12 17:22     ` Kaplan, David
2025-01-08 20:25 ` [PATCH v3 31/35] x86/bugs: Add attack vector controls for bhi David Kaplan
2025-01-08 20:25 ` [PATCH v3 32/35] x86/bugs: Add attack vector controls for spectre_v2 David Kaplan
2025-01-08 20:25 ` [PATCH v3 33/35] x86/bugs: Add attack vector controls for l1tf David Kaplan
2025-01-08 20:25 ` [PATCH v3 34/35] x86/bugs: Add attack vector controls for srso David Kaplan
2025-01-08 20:25 ` [PATCH v3 35/35] x86/pti: Add attack vector controls for pti David Kaplan
     [not found] ` <20250110083627.xankiqhczr7ksldv@desk>
2025-01-10 15:39   ` [PATCH v3 00/35] x86/bugs: Attack vector controls Borislav Petkov
     [not found]     ` <20250110171410.ttbt7cohzdjwi4hk@desk>
2025-01-12 11:38       ` Borislav Petkov
2025-01-13 17:41         ` Pawan Gupta

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