From: Pawan Gupta <pawan.kumar.gupta@linux.intel.com>
To: Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@kernel.org>
Cc: "Kaplan, David" <David.Kaplan@amd.com>,
Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>,
"x86@kernel.org" <x86@kernel.org>,
"H . Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 20/35] x86/bugs: Define attack vectors
Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2025 19:50:38 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20250227034813.booxbhxnff66dnqx@desk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250227012329.vbwdmihjlqu6h5da@jpoimboe>
On Wed, Feb 26, 2025 at 05:23:29PM -0800, Josh Poimboeuf wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 26, 2025 at 04:35:28PM -0800, Pawan Gupta wrote:
> > On Wed, Feb 26, 2025 at 03:44:40PM -0800, Josh Poimboeuf wrote:
> > > On Wed, Feb 26, 2025 at 02:13:24PM -0800, Pawan Gupta wrote:
> > > > On Wed, Feb 26, 2025 at 09:03:58PM +0000, Kaplan, David wrote:
> > > > > > Extending =auto to take attack vectors is going to be tricky, because it already
> > > > > > takes ",nosmt" which would conflict with ",no_cross_thread".
> > > > > >
> > > > > > How about we keep =off, and =auto as is, and add:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > mitigations=selective,no_user_kernel,no_cross_thread,...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Requiring the user to explicitly select attack vectors to disable (rather than to
> > > > > > enable). This would be more verbose, but it would be clear that the user is explicitly
> > > > > > selecting attack vectors to disable. Also, if a new attack vector gets added in future,
> > > > > > it would be mitigated by default, without requiring the world to change their cmdline.
> > > > >
> > > > > I kind of like that.
> > >
> > > While it might be true that we don't necessarily need both opt-in and
> > > opt-out options...
> > >
> > > I'm missing the point of the "selective" thing vs just
> > > "auto,no_whatever"?
> >
> > That was my first thought, but then I realized that in "auto,nosmt" nosmt
> > is the opposite of disabling the mitigation. It would be cleaner to have
> > "=selective,no_whatever" which is self-explanatory.
>
> The "auto,nosmt,no_whatever" is indeed a bit confusing because of the
> opposite meanings of the word "no", but least it sort of makes some
> kind of sense if you consider the existing "auto,nosmt" option to be the
> starting point.
>
> And we could document it from that perspective: start with "auto" or
> "auto,smt" and then optionally append the ",no_*" options for the vectors
> you want to disable.
>
> IMO "selective" doesn't seem very self-explanatory, it says nothing to
> indicate "opting out of defaults", in fact it sounds to me more like
> opting in. At least with "auto,no_whatever" it's more clear that it
> starts with the defaults and subtracts from there.
Thats fair. I certainly don't want to be adding new option if we are
willing to live with some minor quirks with auto,nosmt.
Like, should the order in which nosmt appears after =auto matter? IOW,
"=auto,no_foo,nosmt" would be equivalent to "=auto,nosmt,no_foo"? I believe
they should be treated the same.
Arches that don't support attack vectors, but support smt, should treat
"=auto,no_foo,nosmt" as "=auto,nosmt".
So as to treat nosmt as any other attack vector, CPU_MITIGATIONS_AUTO_NOSMT
should go away. I am thinking we can modify cpu_mitigations_auto_nosmt() to
check for smt attack vector:
---
diff --git a/kernel/cpu.c b/kernel/cpu.c
index b605334f8ee6..6ddbee6a0b6b 100644
--- a/kernel/cpu.c
+++ b/kernel/cpu.c
@@ -3193,22 +3193,27 @@ void __init boot_cpu_hotplug_init(void)
enum cpu_mitigations {
CPU_MITIGATIONS_OFF,
CPU_MITIGATIONS_AUTO,
- CPU_MITIGATIONS_AUTO_NOSMT,
};
+#define MITIGATE_SMT BIT(0)
+#define MITIGATE_USER_KERNEL BIT(1)
+#define MITIGATE_USER_USER BIT(2)
+#define MITIGATE_GUEST_HOST BIT(3)
+
static enum cpu_mitigations cpu_mitigations __ro_after_init = CPU_MITIGATIONS_AUTO;
+static unsigned int cpu_attack_vectors __ro_after_init = ~0;
static int __init mitigations_parse_cmdline(char *arg)
{
- if (!strcmp(arg, "off"))
+ if (!strcmp(arg, "off")) {
cpu_mitigations = CPU_MITIGATIONS_OFF;
- else if (!strcmp(arg, "auto"))
+ } else if (strstr(arg, "auto")) {
cpu_mitigations = CPU_MITIGATIONS_AUTO;
- else if (!strcmp(arg, "auto,nosmt"))
- cpu_mitigations = CPU_MITIGATIONS_AUTO_NOSMT;
- else
+ cpu_attack_vectors = parse_cpu_attack_vectors(arg);
+ } else {
pr_crit("Unsupported mitigations=%s, system may still be vulnerable\n",
arg);
+ }
return 0;
}
@@ -3223,7 +3228,7 @@ EXPORT_SYMBOL_GPL(cpu_mitigations_off);
/* mitigations=auto,nosmt */
bool cpu_mitigations_auto_nosmt(void)
{
- return cpu_mitigations == CPU_MITIGATIONS_AUTO_NOSMT;
+ return (cpu_mitigations == CPU_MITIGATIONS_AUTO) && (cpu_attack_vectors & MITIGATE_SMT);
}
EXPORT_SYMBOL_GPL(cpu_mitigations_auto_nosmt);
#else
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2025-01-08 20:24 [PATCH v3 00/35] x86/bugs: Attack vector controls David Kaplan
2025-01-08 20:24 ` [PATCH v3 01/35] x86/bugs: Add X86_BUG_SPECTRE_V2_USER David Kaplan
2025-02-28 11:53 ` [tip: x86/bugs] " tip-bot2 for David Kaplan
2025-01-08 20:24 ` [PATCH v3 02/35] x86/bugs: Relocate mds/taa/mmio/rfds defines David Kaplan
2025-02-28 11:53 ` [tip: x86/bugs] " tip-bot2 for David Kaplan
2025-01-08 20:24 ` [PATCH v3 03/35] x86/bugs: Add AUTO mitigations for mds/taa/mmio/rfds David Kaplan
2025-02-28 11:53 ` [tip: x86/bugs] " tip-bot2 for David Kaplan
2025-01-08 20:24 ` [PATCH v3 04/35] x86/bugs: Restructure mds mitigation David Kaplan
2025-02-10 16:13 ` Brendan Jackman
2025-02-10 17:17 ` Kaplan, David
2025-02-10 17:28 ` Brendan Jackman
2025-02-10 22:25 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2025-02-10 22:33 ` Kaplan, David
2025-01-08 20:24 ` [PATCH v3 05/35] x86/bugs: Restructure taa mitigation David Kaplan
2025-02-10 16:24 ` Brendan Jackman
2025-02-10 17:19 ` Kaplan, David
2025-02-10 22:50 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2025-02-11 17:17 ` Kaplan, David
2025-02-11 19:17 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2025-01-08 20:24 ` [PATCH v3 06/35] x86/bugs: Restructure mmio mitigation David Kaplan
2025-02-10 16:42 ` Brendan Jackman
2025-02-10 17:22 ` Kaplan, David
2025-02-10 17:35 ` Brendan Jackman
2025-02-10 23:29 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2025-02-11 20:35 ` Kaplan, David
2025-02-11 23:18 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2025-02-12 17:28 ` Kaplan, David
2025-02-12 23:16 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2025-02-19 18:20 ` Borislav Petkov
2025-02-21 21:48 ` Kaplan, David
2025-01-08 20:24 ` [PATCH v3 07/35] x86/bugs: Restructure rfds mitigation David Kaplan
2025-02-10 23:36 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2025-02-11 22:49 ` Kaplan, David
2025-01-08 20:24 ` [PATCH v3 08/35] x86/bugs: Remove md_clear_*_mitigation() David Kaplan
2025-01-08 20:24 ` [PATCH v3 09/35] x86/bugs: Restructure srbds mitigation David Kaplan
2025-02-10 23:44 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2025-02-11 22:59 ` Kaplan, David
2025-01-08 20:24 ` [PATCH v3 10/35] x86/bugs: Restructure gds mitigation David Kaplan
2025-02-10 17:06 ` Brendan Jackman
2025-02-10 17:27 ` Kaplan, David
2025-02-10 17:40 ` Brendan Jackman
2025-02-10 23:52 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2025-02-12 15:36 ` Kaplan, David
2025-01-08 20:24 ` [PATCH v3 11/35] x86/bugs: Restructure spectre_v1 mitigation David Kaplan
2025-01-08 20:24 ` [PATCH v3 12/35] x86/bugs: Restructure retbleed mitigation David Kaplan
2025-01-09 5:22 ` Pawan Gupta
2025-01-09 15:26 ` Kaplan, David
2025-01-09 16:40 ` Pawan Gupta
2025-01-09 16:42 ` Kaplan, David
2025-01-10 18:45 ` David Laight
2025-01-10 20:30 ` Pawan Gupta
2025-01-10 20:35 ` Borislav Petkov
2025-02-10 18:35 ` Brendan Jackman
2025-02-10 20:50 ` Kaplan, David
2025-02-11 0:10 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2025-02-24 15:45 ` Borislav Petkov
2025-02-24 15:59 ` Kaplan, David
2025-01-08 20:24 ` [PATCH v3 13/35] x86/bugs: Restructure spectre_v2_user mitigation David Kaplan
2025-02-11 0:53 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2025-02-12 15:59 ` Kaplan, David
2025-02-12 21:35 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2025-01-08 20:24 ` [PATCH v3 14/35] x86/bugs: Restructure bhi mitigation David Kaplan
2025-01-08 20:24 ` [PATCH v3 15/35] x86/bugs: Restructure spectre_v2 mitigation David Kaplan
2025-02-11 1:07 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2025-02-12 16:40 ` Kaplan, David
2025-01-08 20:24 ` [PATCH v3 16/35] x86/bugs: Restructure ssb mitigation David Kaplan
2025-02-11 1:10 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2025-02-12 16:45 ` Kaplan, David
2025-01-08 20:24 ` [PATCH v3 17/35] x86/bugs: Restructure l1tf mitigation David Kaplan
2025-02-11 1:21 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2025-02-12 16:47 ` Kaplan, David
2025-01-08 20:24 ` [PATCH v3 18/35] x86/bugs: Restructure srso mitigation David Kaplan
2025-02-11 16:39 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2025-02-12 17:01 ` Kaplan, David
2025-01-08 20:24 ` [PATCH v3 19/35] Documentation/x86: Document the new attack vector controls David Kaplan
2025-02-11 16:43 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2025-02-11 16:57 ` Kaplan, David
2025-01-08 20:25 ` [PATCH v3 20/35] x86/bugs: Define attack vectors David Kaplan
2025-02-11 18:07 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2025-02-12 17:20 ` Kaplan, David
2025-02-17 17:33 ` Kaplan, David
2025-02-17 20:19 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2025-02-17 20:38 ` Kaplan, David
2025-02-17 23:39 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2025-02-18 2:24 ` Kaplan, David
2025-02-18 7:05 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2025-02-18 8:52 ` Borislav Petkov
2025-02-20 22:04 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2025-02-26 18:57 ` Kaplan, David
2025-02-26 20:14 ` Pawan Gupta
2025-02-26 21:01 ` Borislav Petkov
2025-02-26 21:51 ` Pawan Gupta
2025-02-27 13:39 ` Borislav Petkov
2025-02-26 21:03 ` Kaplan, David
2025-02-26 22:13 ` Pawan Gupta
2025-02-26 22:18 ` Kaplan, David
2025-02-26 22:34 ` Pawan Gupta
2025-02-26 23:44 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2025-02-27 0:35 ` Pawan Gupta
2025-02-27 1:23 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2025-02-27 3:50 ` Pawan Gupta [this message]
2025-02-27 14:08 ` Borislav Petkov
2025-02-27 14:36 ` Kaplan, David
2025-02-27 15:01 ` Borislav Petkov
2025-02-27 15:22 ` Kaplan, David
2025-02-27 15:37 ` Borislav Petkov
2025-02-27 16:05 ` Kaplan, David
2025-02-27 17:07 ` Borislav Petkov
2025-01-08 20:25 ` [PATCH v3 21/35] x86/bugs: Determine relevant vulnerabilities based on attack vector controls David Kaplan
2025-01-09 3:43 ` Pawan Gupta
2025-01-09 15:08 ` Kaplan, David
2025-02-11 18:41 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2025-02-11 18:54 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2025-02-11 19:04 ` Kaplan, David
2025-02-11 20:34 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2025-02-11 20:53 ` Kaplan, David
2025-02-11 22:38 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2025-02-11 18:55 ` Kaplan, David
2025-01-08 20:25 ` [PATCH v3 22/35] x86/bugs: Add attack vector controls for mds David Kaplan
2025-01-08 20:25 ` [PATCH v3 23/35] x86/bugs: Add attack vector controls for taa David Kaplan
2025-02-11 19:01 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2025-01-08 20:25 ` [PATCH v3 24/35] x86/bugs: Add attack vector controls for mmio David Kaplan
2025-01-08 20:25 ` [PATCH v3 25/35] x86/bugs: Add attack vector controls for rfds David Kaplan
2025-01-08 20:25 ` [PATCH v3 26/35] x86/bugs: Add attack vector controls for srbds David Kaplan
2025-01-08 20:25 ` [PATCH v3 27/35] x86/bugs: Add attack vector controls for gds David Kaplan
2025-01-08 20:25 ` [PATCH v3 28/35] x86/bugs: Add attack vector controls for spectre_v1 David Kaplan
2025-01-08 20:25 ` [PATCH v3 29/35] x86/bugs: Add attack vector controls for retbleed David Kaplan
2025-01-08 20:25 ` [PATCH v3 30/35] x86/bugs: Add attack vector controls for spectre_v2_user David Kaplan
2025-02-11 19:03 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2025-02-12 17:22 ` Kaplan, David
2025-01-08 20:25 ` [PATCH v3 31/35] x86/bugs: Add attack vector controls for bhi David Kaplan
2025-01-08 20:25 ` [PATCH v3 32/35] x86/bugs: Add attack vector controls for spectre_v2 David Kaplan
2025-01-08 20:25 ` [PATCH v3 33/35] x86/bugs: Add attack vector controls for l1tf David Kaplan
2025-01-08 20:25 ` [PATCH v3 34/35] x86/bugs: Add attack vector controls for srso David Kaplan
2025-01-08 20:25 ` [PATCH v3 35/35] x86/pti: Add attack vector controls for pti David Kaplan
[not found] ` <20250110083627.xankiqhczr7ksldv@desk>
2025-01-10 15:39 ` [PATCH v3 00/35] x86/bugs: Attack vector controls Borislav Petkov
[not found] ` <20250110171410.ttbt7cohzdjwi4hk@desk>
2025-01-12 11:38 ` Borislav Petkov
2025-01-13 17:41 ` Pawan Gupta
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