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From: Hillf Danton <hdanton@sina.com>
To: "Sapkal, Swapnil" <swapnil.sapkal@amd.com>
Cc: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>,
	K Prateek Nayak <kprateek.nayak@amd.com>,
	Mateusz Guzik <mjguzik@gmail.com>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] pipe_read: don't wake up the writer if the pipe is still full
Date: Tue,  4 Mar 2025 13:06:43 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20250304050644.2983-1-hdanton@sina.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <03a1f4af-47e0-459d-b2bf-9f65536fc2ab@amd.com>

On Mon, 3 Mar 2025 15:16:34 +0530 "Sapkal, Swapnil" <swapnil.sapkal@amd.com>
> On 2/28/2025 10:03 PM, Oleg Nesterov wrote:
> > And... I know, I know you already hate me ;)
> > 
> 
> Not at all :)
> 
> > but if you have time, could you check if this patch (with or without the
> > previous debugging patch) makes any difference? Just to be sure.
> > 
> 
> Sure, I will give this a try.
> 
> But in the meanwhile me and Prateek tried some of the experiments in the weekend.
> We were able to reproduce this issue on a third generation EPYC system as well as
> on an Intel Emerald Rapids (2 X INTEL(R) XEON(R) PLATINUM 8592+).
> 
> We tried heavy hammered tracing approach over the weekend on top of your debug patch.
> I have attached the debug patch below. With tracing we found the following case for
> pipe_writable():
> 
>    hackbench-118768  [206] .....  1029.550601: pipe_write: 000000005eea28ff: 0: 37 38 16: 1
> 
> Here,
> 
> head = 37
> tail = 38
> max_usage = 16
> pipe_full() returns 1.
> 
> Between reading of head and later the tail, the tail seems to have moved ahead of the
> head leading to wraparound. Applying the following changes I have not yet run into a
> hang on the original machine where I first saw it:
> 
> diff --git a/fs/pipe.c b/fs/pipe.c
> index ce1af7592780..a1931c817822 100644
> --- a/fs/pipe.c
> +++ b/fs/pipe.c
> @@ -417,9 +417,19 @@ static inline int is_packetized(struct file *file)
>   /* Done while waiting without holding the pipe lock - thus the READ_ONCE() */
>   static inline bool pipe_writable(const struct pipe_inode_info *pipe)
>   {
> -	unsigned int head = READ_ONCE(pipe->head);
> -	unsigned int tail = READ_ONCE(pipe->tail);
>   	unsigned int max_usage = READ_ONCE(pipe->max_usage);
> +	unsigned int head, tail;
> +
> +	tail = READ_ONCE(pipe->tail);
> +	/*
> +	 * Since the unsigned arithmetic in this lockless preemptible context
> +	 * relies on the fact that the tail can never be ahead of head, read
> +	 * the head after the tail to ensure we've not missed any updates to
> +	 * the head. Reordering the reads can cause wraparounds and give the
> +	 * illusion that the pipe is full.
> +	 */
> +	smp_rmb();
> +	head = READ_ONCE(pipe->head);
>   
>   	return !pipe_full(head, tail, max_usage) ||
>   		!READ_ONCE(pipe->readers);
> ---
> 
> smp_rmb() on x86 is a nop and even without the barrier we were not able to
> reproduce the hang even after 10000 iterations.
>
My $.02 that changes the wait condition.
Not sure it makes sense for you.

--- x/fs/pipe.c
+++ y/fs/pipe.c
@@ -430,7 +430,7 @@ pipe_write(struct kiocb *iocb, struct io
 {
 	struct file *filp = iocb->ki_filp;
 	struct pipe_inode_info *pipe = filp->private_data;
-	unsigned int head;
+	unsigned int head, tail;
 	ssize_t ret = 0;
 	size_t total_len = iov_iter_count(from);
 	ssize_t chars;
@@ -573,11 +573,13 @@ pipe_write(struct kiocb *iocb, struct io
 		 * after waiting we need to re-check whether the pipe
 		 * become empty while we dropped the lock.
 		 */
+		tail = pipe->tail;
 		mutex_unlock(&pipe->mutex);
 		if (was_empty)
 			wake_up_interruptible_sync_poll(&pipe->rd_wait, EPOLLIN | EPOLLRDNORM);
 		kill_fasync(&pipe->fasync_readers, SIGIO, POLL_IN);
-		wait_event_interruptible_exclusive(pipe->wr_wait, pipe_writable(pipe));
+		wait_event_interruptible_exclusive(pipe->wr_wait,
+				!READ_ONCE(pipe->readers) || tail != READ_ONCE(pipe->tail));
 		mutex_lock(&pipe->mutex);
 		was_empty = pipe_empty(pipe->head, pipe->tail);
 		wake_next_writer = true;
--

  parent reply	other threads:[~2025-03-04  5:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 109+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-01-02 14:07 Oleg Nesterov
2025-01-02 16:20 ` WangYuli
2025-01-02 16:46   ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-01-04  8:42 ` Christian Brauner
2025-01-31  9:49 ` K Prateek Nayak
2025-01-31 13:23   ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-01-31 20:06   ` Linus Torvalds
2025-02-02 17:01     ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-02-02 18:39       ` Linus Torvalds
2025-02-02 19:32         ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-02-04 11:17         ` Christian Brauner
2025-02-03  9:05       ` K Prateek Nayak
2025-02-04 13:49         ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-02-24  9:26 ` Sapkal, Swapnil
2025-02-24 14:24   ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-02-24 18:36     ` Linus Torvalds
2025-02-25 14:26       ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-02-25 11:57     ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-02-26  5:55       ` Sapkal, Swapnil
2025-02-26 11:38         ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-02-26 17:56           ` Sapkal, Swapnil
2025-02-26 18:12             ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-03-03 13:00       ` Alexey Gladkov
2025-03-03 15:46         ` K Prateek Nayak
2025-03-03 17:18           ` Alexey Gladkov
2025-02-26 13:18     ` Mateusz Guzik
2025-02-26 13:21       ` Mateusz Guzik
2025-02-26 17:16         ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-02-27 16:18       ` Sapkal, Swapnil
2025-02-27 16:34         ` Mateusz Guzik
2025-02-27 21:12         ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-02-28  5:58           ` Sapkal, Swapnil
2025-02-28 14:30             ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-02-28 16:33               ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-03-03  9:46                 ` Sapkal, Swapnil
2025-03-03 14:37                   ` Mateusz Guzik
2025-03-03 14:51                     ` Mateusz Guzik
2025-03-03 15:31                       ` K Prateek Nayak
2025-03-03 17:54                         ` Mateusz Guzik
2025-03-03 18:11                           ` Linus Torvalds
2025-03-03 18:33                             ` Mateusz Guzik
2025-03-03 18:55                               ` Linus Torvalds
2025-03-03 19:06                                 ` Mateusz Guzik
2025-03-03 20:27                                 ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-03-03 20:46                                   ` Linus Torvalds
2025-03-04  5:31                                     ` K Prateek Nayak
2025-03-04  6:32                                       ` Linus Torvalds
2025-03-04 12:54                                     ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-03-04 13:25                                       ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-03-04 18:28                                       ` Linus Torvalds
2025-03-04 22:11                                         ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-03-05  4:40                                         ` K Prateek Nayak
2025-03-05  4:52                                           ` Linus Torvalds
2025-03-04 13:51                                     ` [PATCH] fs/pipe: Read pipe->{head,tail} atomically outside pipe->mutex K Prateek Nayak
2025-03-04 18:36                                       ` Alexey Gladkov
2025-03-04 19:03                                       ` Linus Torvalds
2025-03-05 15:31                                     ` [PATCH] pipe_read: don't wake up the writer if the pipe is still full Rasmus Villemoes
2025-03-05 16:50                                       ` Linus Torvalds
2025-03-06  9:48                                         ` Rasmus Villemoes
2025-03-06 14:42                                           ` Rasmus Villemoes
2025-03-05 16:40                                     ` Linus Torvalds
2025-03-06  8:35                                       ` Rasmus Villemoes
2025-03-06 17:59                                         ` Linus Torvalds
2025-03-06  9:28                                       ` Rasmus Villemoes
2025-03-06 11:39                                       ` [RFC PATCH 0/3] pipe: Convert pipe->{head,tail} to unsigned short K Prateek Nayak
2025-03-06 11:39                                         ` [RFC PATCH 1/3] fs/pipe: Limit the slots in pipe_resize_ring() K Prateek Nayak
2025-03-06 12:28                                           ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-03-06 15:26                                             ` K Prateek Nayak
2025-03-06 11:39                                         ` [RFC PATCH 2/3] fs/splice: Atomically read pipe->{head,tail} in opipe_prep() K Prateek Nayak
2025-03-06 11:39                                         ` [RFC PATCH 3/3] treewide: pipe: Convert all references to pipe->{head,tail,max_usage,ring_size} to unsigned short K Prateek Nayak
2025-03-06 12:32                                           ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-03-06 12:41                                             ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-03-06 15:33                                               ` K Prateek Nayak
2025-03-06 18:04                                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2025-03-06 14:27                                             ` Rasmus Villemoes
2025-03-03 18:32                           ` [PATCH] pipe_read: don't wake up the writer if the pipe is still full K Prateek Nayak
2025-03-04  5:22                             ` K Prateek Nayak
2025-03-03 16:49                   ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-03-04  5:06                   ` Hillf Danton [this message]
2025-03-04  5:35                     ` K Prateek Nayak
2025-03-04 10:29                       ` Hillf Danton
2025-03-04 12:34                         ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-03-04 23:35                           ` Hillf Danton
2025-03-04 23:49                             ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-03-05  4:56                               ` Hillf Danton
2025-03-05 11:44                                 ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-03-05 22:46                                   ` Hillf Danton
2025-03-06  9:30                                     ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-03-07  6:08                                       ` Hillf Danton
2025-03-07  6:24                                         ` K Prateek Nayak
2025-03-07 10:46                                           ` Hillf Danton
2025-03-07 11:29                                             ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-03-07 12:34                                               ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-03-07 23:56                                                 ` Hillf Danton
2025-03-09 14:01                                                   ` K Prateek Nayak
2025-03-09 17:02                                                   ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-03-10 10:49                                                     ` Hillf Danton
2025-03-10 11:09                                                       ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-03-10 11:37                                                         ` Hillf Danton
2025-03-10 12:43                                                           ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-03-10 23:33                                                             ` Hillf Danton
2025-03-11  0:26                                                               ` Linus Torvalds
2025-03-11  6:54                                                               ` Oleg Nesterov
     [not found]                                                               ` <20250311112922.3342-1-hdanton@sina.com>
2025-03-11 11:53                                                                 ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-03-07 11:26                                         ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-02-27 12:50   ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-02-27 13:52     ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-02-27 15:59     ` Mateusz Guzik
2025-02-27 16:28       ` Oleg Nesterov

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