From: Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@kernel.org>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-tip-commits@vger.kernel.org,
"Peter Zijlstra (Intel)" <peterz@infradead.org>,
Brian Gerst <brgerst@gmail.com>, "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
x86@kernel.org
Subject: Re: [tip: x86/asm] x86/asm: Make ASM_CALL_CONSTRAINT conditional on frame pointers
Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2025 12:09:35 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20250304200935.wheet2xouue54bbv@jpoimboe> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250304195625.qcxvtv63fqqk6fx4@jpoimboe>
On Tue, Mar 04, 2025 at 11:56:27AM -0800, Josh Poimboeuf wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 04, 2025 at 08:57:13AM -1000, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> > On Tue, 4 Mar 2025 at 08:48, Linus Torvalds
> > <torvalds@linux-foundation.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > Random ugly code, untested, special versions for different config options.
> > >
> > > __builtin_frame_address() is much more complex than just the old "use
> > > a register variable".
> >
> > On the gcc bugzilla that hpa opened, I also note that Pinski said that
> > the __builtin_frame_address() is likely to just work by accident.
> >
> > Exactly like the %rsp case.
>
> Right, so they're equally horrible in that sense.
>
> > I'd be much more inclined to look for whether marking the asm
> > 'volatile' would be a more reliable model. Or adding a memory clobber
> > or similar.
>
> Believe me, I've tried those and they don't work.
>
> > Those kinds of solutions would also hopefully not need different
> > sequences for different config options. Because
> > __builtin_frame_address() really *is* fundamentally fragile, and the
> > fact that frame pointers change behavior is a pretty big symptom of
> > that fragility.
>
> While that may be theoretically true, the reality is that it produces
> better code for Clang.
BTW. I confirmed that even the current version of ASM_CALL_CONSTRAINT
affects code generation for non-frame-pointer builds.
No matter what the ASM_CALL_CONSTRAINT implementation looks like, we
really don't want it affecting code generation for the ORC case.
So making ASM_CALL_CONSTRAINT empty for CONFIG_UNWINDER_ORC is a good
thing for code generation, regardless of the ASM_CALL_CONSTRAINT
implementation.
--
Josh
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-03-04 20:09 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-03-03 11:02 tip-bot2 for Josh Poimboeuf
2025-03-03 18:28 ` Linus Torvalds
2025-03-03 22:37 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2025-03-04 8:33 ` Ingo Molnar
2025-03-04 17:51 ` Linus Torvalds
2025-03-04 18:01 ` Linus Torvalds
2025-03-04 18:21 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2025-03-04 18:48 ` Linus Torvalds
2025-03-04 18:57 ` Linus Torvalds
2025-03-04 19:56 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2025-03-04 20:09 ` Josh Poimboeuf [this message]
2025-03-04 20:13 ` Linus Torvalds
2025-03-04 20:25 ` Linus Torvalds
2025-03-04 20:41 ` Linus Torvalds
2025-03-04 22:45 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2025-03-04 19:47 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2025-03-04 20:00 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2025-03-04 19:15 ` Ingo Molnar
2025-03-03 22:31 ` H. Peter Anvin
2025-03-03 22:45 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2025-03-03 22:47 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2025-03-04 0:35 ` H. Peter Anvin
2025-03-04 0:57 ` Andrew Cooper
2025-03-04 2:05 ` H. Peter Anvin
2025-03-04 17:45 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2025-03-04 15:35 ` Uros Bizjak
2025-03-04 22:08 ` H. Peter Anvin
2025-03-03 23:59 ` H. Peter Anvin
2025-03-04 15:28 ` Uros Bizjak
2025-03-04 10:36 tip-bot2 for Josh Poimboeuf
2025-03-07 22:04 ` H. Peter Anvin
2025-03-07 23:05 ` Ingo Molnar
2025-03-07 23:21 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2025-03-07 23:29 ` H. Peter Anvin
2025-03-08 1:38 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2025-03-08 8:15 ` David Laight
2025-03-08 17:06 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2025-03-10 14:49 ` H. Peter Anvin
2025-03-13 23:33 ` Josh Poimboeuf
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