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From: Michael Roth <michael.roth@amd.com>
To: Vishal Annapurve <vannapurve@google.com>
Cc: Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>,
	Yan Zhao <yan.y.zhao@intel.com>, <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	<kvm@vger.kernel.org>, <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	<rick.p.edgecombe@intel.com>, <kai.huang@intel.com>,
	<adrian.hunter@intel.com>, <reinette.chatre@intel.com>,
	<xiaoyao.li@intel.com>, <tony.lindgren@intel.com>,
	<binbin.wu@linux.intel.com>, <dmatlack@google.com>,
	<isaku.yamahata@intel.com>, <ira.weiny@intel.com>,
	<david@redhat.com>, <ackerleytng@google.com>, <tabba@google.com>,
	<chao.p.peng@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH] KVM: TDX: Decouple TDX init mem region from kvm_gmem_populate()
Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2025 14:49:52 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20250711194952.ppzljx7sb6ouiwix@amd.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAGtprH9dCCxK=GwVZTUKCeERQGbYD78-t4xDzQprmwtGxDoZXw@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, Jul 11, 2025 at 11:38:10AM -0700, Vishal Annapurve wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 11, 2025 at 9:37 AM Michael Roth <michael.roth@amd.com> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > static long __kvm_gmem_populate(struct kvm *kvm, struct kvm_memory_slot *slot,
> > >                               struct file *file, gfn_t gfn, void __user *src,
> > >                               kvm_gmem_populate_cb post_populate, void *opaque)
> > > {
> > >       pgoff_t index = kvm_gmem_get_index(slot, gfn);
> > >       struct page *src_page = NULL;
> > >       bool is_prepared = false;
> > >       struct folio *folio;
> > >       int ret, max_order;
> > >       kvm_pfn_t pfn;
> > >
> > >       if (src) {
> > >               ret = get_user_pages((unsigned long)src, 1, 0, &src_page);
> > >               if (ret < 0)
> > >                       return ret;
> > >               if (ret != 1)
> > >                       return -ENOMEM;
> > >       }
> >
> > One tricky part here is that the uAPI currently expects the pages to
> > have the private attribute set prior to calling kvm_gmem_populate(),
> > which gets enforced below.
> >
> > For in-place conversion: the idea is that userspace will convert
> > private->shared to update in-place, then immediately convert back
> > shared->private; so that approach would remain compatible with above
> > behavior. But if we pass a 'src' parameter to kvm_gmem_populate(),
> > and do a GUP or copy_from_user() on it at any point, regardless if
> > it is is outside of filemap_invalidate_lock(), then
> > kvm_gmem_fault_shared() will return -EACCES.
> 
> I think that's a fine way to fail the initial memory population, this
> simply means userspace didn't pass the right source address. Why do we
> have to work around this error? Userspace should simply pass the
> source buffer that is accessible to the host or pass null to indicate
> that the target gfn already has the needed contents.
> 
> That is, userspace can still bring a separate source buffer even with
> in-place conversion available.

I thought there was some agreement that mmap() be the 'blessed'
approach for initializing memory with in-place conversion to help
untangle some of these paths, so it made sense to enforce that in
kvm_gmem_populate() to make it 'official', but with Sean's suggested
rework I suppose we could support both approaches.

-Mike

> 
> > The only 2 ways I see
> > around that are to either a) stop enforcing that pages that get
> > processed by kvm_gmem_populate() are private for in-place conversion
> > case, or b) enforce that 'src' is NULL for in-place conversion case.
> >

  reply	other threads:[~2025-07-11 19:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-07-03  6:26 Yan Zhao
2025-07-03 16:51 ` Vishal Annapurve
2025-07-09 23:21 ` Michael Roth
2025-07-10 16:24   ` Sean Christopherson
2025-07-11  1:41     ` Ira Weiny
2025-07-11 14:21       ` Sean Christopherson
2025-07-11  4:36     ` Yan Zhao
2025-07-11 15:17       ` Michael Roth
2025-07-11 15:39         ` Sean Christopherson
2025-07-11 16:34           ` Michael Roth
2025-07-11 18:38             ` Vishal Annapurve
2025-07-11 19:49               ` Michael Roth [this message]
2025-07-11 20:19                 ` Sean Christopherson
2025-07-11 20:25             ` Ira Weiny
2025-07-11 22:56               ` Sean Christopherson
2025-07-11 23:04                 ` Vishal Annapurve
2025-07-14 23:11                   ` Ira Weiny
2025-07-15  0:41                     ` Vishal Annapurve
2025-07-14 23:08                 ` Ira Weiny
2025-07-14 23:12                   ` Sean Christopherson
2025-07-11 18:46           ` Vishal Annapurve
2025-07-12 17:38             ` Vishal Annapurve
2025-07-14  6:15           ` Yan Zhao
2025-07-14 15:46             ` Sean Christopherson
2025-07-14 16:02               ` David Hildenbrand
2025-07-14 16:07                 ` Sean Christopherson
2025-07-15  1:10               ` Yan Zhao
2025-07-18  9:14                 ` Yan Zhao
2025-07-18 15:57                   ` Vishal Annapurve
2025-07-18 18:42                     ` Ira Weiny
2025-07-18 18:59                       ` Vishal Annapurve
2025-07-21 17:46                         ` Ira Weiny
2025-07-28  9:48                     ` Yan Zhao
2025-07-29  0:45                       ` Vishal Annapurve
2025-07-29  1:37                         ` Yan Zhao
2025-07-29 16:33                           ` Ira Weiny
2025-08-05  0:22                             ` Sean Christopherson
2025-08-05  1:20                               ` Vishal Annapurve
2025-08-05 14:30                                 ` Vishal Annapurve
2025-08-05 19:59                                 ` Sean Christopherson
2025-08-06  0:09                                   ` Vishal Annapurve
2025-10-02 21:01                                     ` Ira Weiny
2025-10-03  0:15                                       ` Sean Christopherson
2025-10-03 15:31                                         ` Ira Weiny
2025-07-14  3:20         ` Yan Zhao

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