From: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
To: Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>, Yan Zhao <yan.y.zhao@intel.com>
Cc: Michael Roth <michael.roth@amd.com>,
pbonzini@redhat.com, kvm@vger.kernel.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, rick.p.edgecombe@intel.com,
kai.huang@intel.com, adrian.hunter@intel.com,
reinette.chatre@intel.com, xiaoyao.li@intel.com,
tony.lindgren@intel.com, binbin.wu@linux.intel.com,
dmatlack@google.com, isaku.yamahata@intel.com,
ira.weiny@intel.com, vannapurve@google.com,
ackerleytng@google.com, tabba@google.com, chao.p.peng@intel.com
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH] KVM: TDX: Decouple TDX init mem region from kvm_gmem_populate()
Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2025 18:02:58 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <c5c964cd-947e-43ff-9c79-18c1555aea8e@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aHUmcxuh0a6WfiVr@google.com>
On 14.07.25 17:46, Sean Christopherson wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 14, 2025, Yan Zhao wrote:
>> On Fri, Jul 11, 2025 at 08:39:59AM -0700, Sean Christopherson wrote:
>>> On Fri, Jul 11, 2025, Michael Roth wrote:
>>>> On Fri, Jul 11, 2025 at 12:36:24PM +0800, Yan Zhao wrote:
>>>>> Besides, it can't address the 2nd AB-BA lock issue as mentioned in the patch
>>>>> log:
>>>>>
>>>>> Problem
>>>>> ===
>>>>> ...
>>>>> (2)
>>>>> Moreover, in step 2, get_user_pages_fast() may acquire mm->mmap_lock,
>>>>> resulting in the following lock sequence in tdx_vcpu_init_mem_region():
>>>>> - filemap invalidation lock --> mm->mmap_lock
>>>>>
>>>>> However, in future code, the shared filemap invalidation lock will be held
>>>>> in kvm_gmem_fault_shared() (see [6]), leading to the lock sequence:
>>>>> - mm->mmap_lock --> filemap invalidation lock
>>>>
>>>> I wouldn't expect kvm_gmem_fault_shared() to trigger for the
>>>> KVM_MEMSLOT_SUPPORTS_GMEM_SHARED case (or whatever we end up naming it).
>>>
>>> Irrespective of shared faults, I think the API could do with a bit of cleanup
>>> now that TDX has landed, i.e. now that we can see a bit more of the picture.
>>>
>>> As is, I'm pretty sure TDX is broken with respect to hugepage support, because
>>> kvm_gmem_populate() marks an entire folio as prepared, but TDX only ever deals
>>> with one page at a time. So that needs to be changed. I assume it's already
>> In TDX RFC v1, we deals with multiple pages at a time :)
>> https://lore.kernel.org/all/20250424030500.32720-1-yan.y.zhao@intel.com/
>>
>>> address in one of the many upcoming series, but it still shows a flaw in the API.
>>>
>>> Hoisting the retrieval of the source page outside of filemap_invalidate_lock()
>>> seems pretty straightforward, and would provide consistent ABI for all vendor
>>> flavors. E.g. as is, non-struct-page memory will work for SNP, but not TDX. The
>>> obvious downside is that struct-page becomes a requirement for SNP, but that
>>>
>>> The below could be tweaked to batch get_user_pages() into an array of pointers,
>>> but given that both SNP and TDX can only operate on one 4KiB page at a time, and
>>> that hugepage support doesn't yet exist, trying to super optimize the hugepage
>>> case straightaway doesn't seem like a pressing concern.
>>
>>> static long __kvm_gmem_populate(struct kvm *kvm, struct kvm_memory_slot *slot,
>>> struct file *file, gfn_t gfn, void __user *src,
>>> kvm_gmem_populate_cb post_populate, void *opaque)
>>> {
>>> pgoff_t index = kvm_gmem_get_index(slot, gfn);
>>> struct page *src_page = NULL;
>>> bool is_prepared = false;
>>> struct folio *folio;
>>> int ret, max_order;
>>> kvm_pfn_t pfn;
>>>
>>> if (src) {
>>> ret = get_user_pages((unsigned long)src, 1, 0, &src_page);
>> get_user_pages_fast()?
>>
>> get_user_pages() can't pass the assertion of mmap_assert_locked().
>
> Oh, I forgot get_user_pages() requires mmap_lock to already be held. I would
> prefer to not use a fast variant, so that userspace isn't required to prefault
> (and pin?) the source.
>
> So get_user_pages_unlocked()?
Yes, but likely we really want get_user_pages_fast(), which will
fallback to GUP-slow (+take the lock) in case it doesn't find what it
needs in the page tables.
get_user_pages_fast_only() would be the variant that doesn't fallback to
GUP-slow.
--
Cheers,
David / dhildenb
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-07-14 16:03 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-07-03 6:26 Yan Zhao
2025-07-03 16:51 ` Vishal Annapurve
2025-07-09 23:21 ` Michael Roth
2025-07-10 16:24 ` Sean Christopherson
2025-07-11 1:41 ` Ira Weiny
2025-07-11 14:21 ` Sean Christopherson
2025-07-11 4:36 ` Yan Zhao
2025-07-11 15:17 ` Michael Roth
2025-07-11 15:39 ` Sean Christopherson
2025-07-11 16:34 ` Michael Roth
2025-07-11 18:38 ` Vishal Annapurve
2025-07-11 19:49 ` Michael Roth
2025-07-11 20:19 ` Sean Christopherson
2025-07-11 20:25 ` Ira Weiny
2025-07-11 22:56 ` Sean Christopherson
2025-07-11 23:04 ` Vishal Annapurve
2025-07-14 23:11 ` Ira Weiny
2025-07-15 0:41 ` Vishal Annapurve
2025-07-14 23:08 ` Ira Weiny
2025-07-14 23:12 ` Sean Christopherson
2025-07-11 18:46 ` Vishal Annapurve
2025-07-12 17:38 ` Vishal Annapurve
2025-07-14 6:15 ` Yan Zhao
2025-07-14 15:46 ` Sean Christopherson
2025-07-14 16:02 ` David Hildenbrand [this message]
2025-07-14 16:07 ` Sean Christopherson
2025-07-15 1:10 ` Yan Zhao
2025-07-18 9:14 ` Yan Zhao
2025-07-18 15:57 ` Vishal Annapurve
2025-07-18 18:42 ` Ira Weiny
2025-07-18 18:59 ` Vishal Annapurve
2025-07-21 17:46 ` Ira Weiny
2025-07-28 9:48 ` Yan Zhao
2025-07-29 0:45 ` Vishal Annapurve
2025-07-29 1:37 ` Yan Zhao
2025-07-29 16:33 ` Ira Weiny
2025-08-05 0:22 ` Sean Christopherson
2025-08-05 1:20 ` Vishal Annapurve
2025-08-05 14:30 ` Vishal Annapurve
2025-08-05 19:59 ` Sean Christopherson
2025-08-06 0:09 ` Vishal Annapurve
2025-10-02 21:01 ` Ira Weiny
2025-10-03 0:15 ` Sean Christopherson
2025-10-03 15:31 ` Ira Weiny
2025-07-14 3:20 ` Yan Zhao
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