* [PATCH 0/1] closures: replace wq users and add WQ_PERCPU to alloc_workqueue() users
@ 2025-09-05 8:56 Marco Crivellari
2025-09-05 8:56 ` [PATCH 1/1] closure: replace use of system_wq with system_percpu_wq Marco Crivellari
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From: Marco Crivellari @ 2025-09-05 8:56 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: linux-kernel, linux-bcachefs
Cc: Tejun Heo, Lai Jiangshan, Frederic Weisbecker,
Sebastian Andrzej Siewior, Marco Crivellari, Michal Hocko,
Kent Overstreet
Hi!
Below is a summary of a discussion about the Workqueue API and cpu isolation
considerations. Details and more information are available here:
"workqueue: Always use wq_select_unbound_cpu() for WORK_CPU_UNBOUND."
https://lore.kernel.org/all/20250221112003.1dSuoGyc@linutronix.de/
=== Current situation: problems ===
Let's consider a nohz_full system with isolated CPUs: wq_unbound_cpumask is
set to the housekeeping CPUs, for !WQ_UNBOUND the local CPU is selected.
This leads to different scenarios if a work item is scheduled on an isolated
CPU where "delay" value is 0 or greater then 0:
schedule_delayed_work(, 0);
This will be handled by __queue_work() that will queue the work item on the
current local (isolated) CPU, while:
schedule_delayed_work(, 1);
Will move the timer on an housekeeping CPU, and schedule the work there.
Currently if a user enqueue a work item using schedule_delayed_work() the
used wq is "system_wq" (per-cpu wq) while queue_delayed_work() use
WORK_CPU_UNBOUND (used when a cpu is not specified). The same applies to
schedule_work() that is using system_wq and queue_work(), that makes use
again of WORK_CPU_UNBOUND.
This lack of consistentcy cannot be addressed without refactoring the API.
=== Plan and future plans ===
This patchset is the first stone on a refactoring needed in order to
address the points aforementioned; it will have a positive impact also
on the cpu isolation, in the long term, moving away percpu workqueue in
favor to an unbound model.
These are the main steps:
1) API refactoring (that this patch is introducing)
- Make more clear and uniform the system wq names, both per-cpu and
unbound. This to avoid any possible confusion on what should be
used.
- Introduction of WQ_PERCPU: this flag is the complement of WQ_UNBOUND,
introduced in this patchset and used on all the callers that are not
currently using WQ_UNBOUND.
WQ_UNBOUND will be removed in a future release cycle.
Most users don't need to be per-cpu, because they don't have
locality requirements, because of that, a next future step will be
make "unbound" the default behavior.
2) Check who really needs to be per-cpu
- Remove the WQ_PERCPU flag when is not strictly required.
3) Add a new API (prefer local cpu)
- There are users that don't require a local execution, like mentioned
above; despite that, local execution yeld to performance gain.
This new API will prefer the local execution, without requiring it.
=== Introduced Changes by this series ===
1) [P 1] Replace use of system_wq
system_wq is a per-CPU workqueue, but his name is not clear.
Because of that, system_wq has been renamed in system_percpu_wq.
=== For Maintainers ===
There are prerequisites for this series, already merged in the master branch.
The commits are:
128ea9f6ccfb6960293ae4212f4f97165e42222d ("workqueue: Add system_percpu_wq and
system_dfl_wq")
930c2ea566aff59e962c50b2421d5fcc3b98b8be ("workqueue: Add new WQ_PERCPU flag")
Thanks!
Marco Crivellari (1):
closure: replace use of system_wq with system_percpu_wq
include/linux/closure.h | 2 +-
1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-)
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2.51.0
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* [PATCH 1/1] closure: replace use of system_wq with system_percpu_wq
2025-09-05 8:56 [PATCH 0/1] closures: replace wq users and add WQ_PERCPU to alloc_workqueue() users Marco Crivellari
@ 2025-09-05 8:56 ` Marco Crivellari
2025-09-06 18:53 ` Kent Overstreet
0 siblings, 1 reply; 4+ messages in thread
From: Marco Crivellari @ 2025-09-05 8:56 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: linux-kernel, linux-bcachefs
Cc: Tejun Heo, Lai Jiangshan, Frederic Weisbecker,
Sebastian Andrzej Siewior, Marco Crivellari, Michal Hocko,
Kent Overstreet
Currently if a user enqueue a work item using schedule_delayed_work() the
used wq is "system_wq" (per-cpu wq) while queue_delayed_work() use
WORK_CPU_UNBOUND (used when a cpu is not specified). The same applies to
schedule_work() that is using system_wq and queue_work(), that makes use
again of WORK_CPU_UNBOUND.
This lack of consistentcy cannot be addressed without refactoring the API.
system_wq is a per-CPU worqueue, yet nothing in its name tells about that
CPU affinity constraint, which is very often not required by users. Make
it clear by adding a system_percpu_wq.
queue_work() / queue_delayed_work() mod_delayed_work() will now use the
new per-cpu wq: whether the user still stick on the old name a warn will
be printed along a wq redirect to the new one.
This patch add the new system_percpu_wq except for mm, fs and net
subsystem, whom are handled in separated patches.
The old wq will be kept for a few release cylces.
Suggested-by: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>
Signed-off-by: Marco Crivellari <marco.crivellari@suse.com>
---
include/linux/closure.h | 2 +-
1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-)
diff --git a/include/linux/closure.h b/include/linux/closure.h
index 880fe85e35e9..959b3c584254 100644
--- a/include/linux/closure.h
+++ b/include/linux/closure.h
@@ -58,7 +58,7 @@
* bio2->bi_endio = foo_endio;
* bio_submit(bio2);
*
- * continue_at(cl, complete_some_read, system_wq);
+ * continue_at(cl, complete_some_read, system_percpu_wq);
*
* If closure's refcount started at 0, complete_some_read() could run before the
* second bio was submitted - which is almost always not what you want! More
--
2.51.0
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* Re: [PATCH 1/1] closure: replace use of system_wq with system_percpu_wq
2025-09-05 8:56 ` [PATCH 1/1] closure: replace use of system_wq with system_percpu_wq Marco Crivellari
@ 2025-09-06 18:53 ` Kent Overstreet
2025-09-09 10:11 ` Marco Crivellari
0 siblings, 1 reply; 4+ messages in thread
From: Kent Overstreet @ 2025-09-06 18:53 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Marco Crivellari
Cc: linux-kernel, linux-bcachefs, Tejun Heo, Lai Jiangshan,
Frederic Weisbecker, Sebastian Andrzej Siewior, Michal Hocko
On Fri, Sep 05, 2025 at 10:56:25AM +0200, Marco Crivellari wrote:
> Currently if a user enqueue a work item using schedule_delayed_work() the
> used wq is "system_wq" (per-cpu wq) while queue_delayed_work() use
> WORK_CPU_UNBOUND (used when a cpu is not specified). The same applies to
> schedule_work() that is using system_wq and queue_work(), that makes use
> again of WORK_CPU_UNBOUND.
>
> This lack of consistentcy cannot be addressed without refactoring the API.
>
> system_wq is a per-CPU worqueue, yet nothing in its name tells about that
> CPU affinity constraint, which is very often not required by users. Make
> it clear by adding a system_percpu_wq.
>
> queue_work() / queue_delayed_work() mod_delayed_work() will now use the
> new per-cpu wq: whether the user still stick on the old name a warn will
> be printed along a wq redirect to the new one.
>
> This patch add the new system_percpu_wq except for mm, fs and net
> subsystem, whom are handled in separated patches.
>
> The old wq will be kept for a few release cylces.
>
> Suggested-by: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>
> Signed-off-by: Marco Crivellari <marco.crivellari@suse.com>
> ---
> include/linux/closure.h | 2 +-
> 1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-)
>
> diff --git a/include/linux/closure.h b/include/linux/closure.h
> index 880fe85e35e9..959b3c584254 100644
> --- a/include/linux/closure.h
> +++ b/include/linux/closure.h
> @@ -58,7 +58,7 @@
> * bio2->bi_endio = foo_endio;
> * bio_submit(bio2);
> *
> - * continue_at(cl, complete_some_read, system_wq);
> + * continue_at(cl, complete_some_read, system_percpu_wq);
> *
> * If closure's refcount started at 0, complete_some_read() could run before the
> * second bio was submitted - which is almost always not what you want! More
> --
> 2.51.0
>
I was confused until I realized you're updating a comment.
Acked-by: Kent Overstreet <kent.overstreet@linux.dev>
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* Re: [PATCH 1/1] closure: replace use of system_wq with system_percpu_wq
2025-09-06 18:53 ` Kent Overstreet
@ 2025-09-09 10:11 ` Marco Crivellari
0 siblings, 0 replies; 4+ messages in thread
From: Marco Crivellari @ 2025-09-09 10:11 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Kent Overstreet
Cc: linux-kernel, linux-bcachefs, Tejun Heo, Lai Jiangshan,
Frederic Weisbecker, Sebastian Andrzej Siewior, Michal Hocko
On Sat, Sep 6, 2025 at 8:54 PM Kent Overstreet
<kent.overstreet@linux.dev> wrote:
> I was confused until I realized you're updating a comment.
>
> Acked-by: Kent Overstreet <kent.overstreet@linux.dev>
Hello Kent,
Yes, sorry for the confusion.
Thanks!
--
Marco Crivellari
L3 Support Engineer, Technology & Product
marco.crivellari@suse.com
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