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* [PATCH 0/1] crypto: replace wq users and add WQ_PERCPU to alloc_workqueue() users
@ 2025-09-05  8:57 Marco Crivellari
  2025-09-05  8:57 ` [PATCH 1/1] crypto: WQ_PERCPU added to alloc_workqueue users Marco Crivellari
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 3+ messages in thread
From: Marco Crivellari @ 2025-09-05  8:57 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: linux-kernel, linux-crypto
  Cc: Tejun Heo, Lai Jiangshan, Frederic Weisbecker,
	Sebastian Andrzej Siewior, Marco Crivellari, Michal Hocko,
	David S . Miller, Herbert Xu

Below is a summary of a discussion about the Workqueue API and cpu isolation
considerations. Details and more information are available here:

        "workqueue: Always use wq_select_unbound_cpu() for WORK_CPU_UNBOUND."
        https://lore.kernel.org/all/20250221112003.1dSuoGyc@linutronix.de/

=== Current situation: problems ===

Let's consider a nohz_full system with isolated CPUs: wq_unbound_cpumask is
set to the housekeeping CPUs, for !WQ_UNBOUND the local CPU is selected.

This leads to different scenarios if a work item is scheduled on an isolated
CPU where "delay" value is 0 or greater then 0:
        schedule_delayed_work(, 0);

This will be handled by __queue_work() that will queue the work item on the
current local (isolated) CPU, while:

        schedule_delayed_work(, 1);

Will move the timer on an housekeeping CPU, and schedule the work there.

Currently if a user enqueue a work item using schedule_delayed_work() the
used wq is "system_wq" (per-cpu wq) while queue_delayed_work() use
WORK_CPU_UNBOUND (used when a cpu is not specified). The same applies to
schedule_work() that is using system_wq and queue_work(), that makes use
again of WORK_CPU_UNBOUND.

This lack of consistentcy cannot be addressed without refactoring the API.

=== Plan and future plans ===

This patchset is the first stone on a refactoring needed in order to
address the points aforementioned; it will have a positive impact also
on the cpu isolation, in the long term, moving away percpu workqueue in
favor to an unbound model.

These are the main steps:
1)  API refactoring (that this patch is introducing)
    -   Make more clear and uniform the system wq names, both per-cpu and
        unbound. This to avoid any possible confusion on what should be
        used.

    -   Introduction of WQ_PERCPU: this flag is the complement of WQ_UNBOUND,
        introduced in this patchset and used on all the callers that are not
        currently using WQ_UNBOUND.

        WQ_UNBOUND will be removed in a future release cycle.

        Most users don't need to be per-cpu, because they don't have
        locality requirements, because of that, a next future step will be
        make "unbound" the default behavior.

2)  Check who really needs to be per-cpu
    -   Remove the WQ_PERCPU flag when is not strictly required.

3)  Add a new API (prefer local cpu)
    -   There are users that don't require a local execution, like mentioned
        above; despite that, local execution yeld to performance gain.

        This new API will prefer the local execution, without requiring it.

=== Introduced Changes by this series ===

1) [P 1] add WQ_PERCPU to remaining alloc_workqueue() users

        Every alloc_workqueue() caller should use one among WQ_PERCPU or
        WQ_UNBOUND. This is actually enforced warning if both or none of them
        are present at the same time.

        WQ_UNBOUND will be removed in a next release cycle.

=== For Maintainers ===

There are prerequisites for this series, already merged in the master branch.
The commits are:

128ea9f6ccfb6960293ae4212f4f97165e42222d ("workqueue: Add system_percpu_wq and
system_dfl_wq")

930c2ea566aff59e962c50b2421d5fcc3b98b8be ("workqueue: Add new WQ_PERCPU flag")


Thanks!

Marco Crivellari (1):
  crypto: WQ_PERCPU added to alloc_workqueue users

 crypto/cryptd.c | 3 ++-
 1 file changed, 2 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)

-- 
2.51.0


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* [PATCH 1/1] crypto: WQ_PERCPU added to alloc_workqueue users
  2025-09-05  8:57 [PATCH 0/1] crypto: replace wq users and add WQ_PERCPU to alloc_workqueue() users Marco Crivellari
@ 2025-09-05  8:57 ` Marco Crivellari
  2025-09-13  4:29   ` Herbert Xu
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 3+ messages in thread
From: Marco Crivellari @ 2025-09-05  8:57 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: linux-kernel, linux-crypto
  Cc: Tejun Heo, Lai Jiangshan, Frederic Weisbecker,
	Sebastian Andrzej Siewior, Marco Crivellari, Michal Hocko,
	David S . Miller, Herbert Xu

Currently if a user enqueue a work item using schedule_delayed_work() the
used wq is "system_wq" (per-cpu wq) while queue_delayed_work() use
WORK_CPU_UNBOUND (used when a cpu is not specified). The same applies to
schedule_work() that is using system_wq and queue_work(), that makes use
again of WORK_CPU_UNBOUND.
This lack of consistentcy cannot be addressed without refactoring the API.

alloc_workqueue() treats all queues as per-CPU by default, while unbound
workqueues must opt-in via WQ_UNBOUND.

This default is suboptimal: most workloads benefit from unbound queues,
allowing the scheduler to place worker threads where they’re needed and
reducing noise when CPUs are isolated.

This default is suboptimal: most workloads benefit from unbound queues,
allowing the scheduler to place worker threads where they’re needed and
reducing noise when CPUs are isolated.

This patch adds a new WQ_PERCPU flag to explicitly request the use of
the per-CPU behavior. Both flags coexist for one release cycle to allow
callers to transition their calls.

Once migration is complete, WQ_UNBOUND can be removed and unbound will
become the implicit default.

With the introduction of the WQ_PERCPU flag (equivalent to !WQ_UNBOUND),
any alloc_workqueue() caller that doesn’t explicitly specify WQ_UNBOUND
must now use WQ_PERCPU.

All existing users have been updated accordingly.

Suggested-by: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>
Signed-off-by: Marco Crivellari <marco.crivellari@suse.com>
---
 crypto/cryptd.c | 3 ++-
 1 file changed, 2 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)

diff --git a/crypto/cryptd.c b/crypto/cryptd.c
index 31d022d47f7a..eaf970086f8d 100644
--- a/crypto/cryptd.c
+++ b/crypto/cryptd.c
@@ -1109,7 +1109,8 @@ static int __init cryptd_init(void)
 {
 	int err;
 
-	cryptd_wq = alloc_workqueue("cryptd", WQ_MEM_RECLAIM | WQ_CPU_INTENSIVE,
+	cryptd_wq = alloc_workqueue("cryptd",
+				    WQ_MEM_RECLAIM | WQ_CPU_INTENSIVE | WQ_PERCPU,
 				    1);
 	if (!cryptd_wq)
 		return -ENOMEM;
-- 
2.51.0


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* Re: [PATCH 1/1] crypto: WQ_PERCPU added to alloc_workqueue users
  2025-09-05  8:57 ` [PATCH 1/1] crypto: WQ_PERCPU added to alloc_workqueue users Marco Crivellari
@ 2025-09-13  4:29   ` Herbert Xu
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 3+ messages in thread
From: Herbert Xu @ 2025-09-13  4:29 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Marco Crivellari
  Cc: linux-kernel, linux-crypto, Tejun Heo, Lai Jiangshan,
	Frederic Weisbecker, Sebastian Andrzej Siewior, Michal Hocko,
	David S . Miller

On Fri, Sep 05, 2025 at 10:57:01AM +0200, Marco Crivellari wrote:
> Currently if a user enqueue a work item using schedule_delayed_work() the
> used wq is "system_wq" (per-cpu wq) while queue_delayed_work() use
> WORK_CPU_UNBOUND (used when a cpu is not specified). The same applies to
> schedule_work() that is using system_wq and queue_work(), that makes use
> again of WORK_CPU_UNBOUND.
> This lack of consistentcy cannot be addressed without refactoring the API.
> 
> alloc_workqueue() treats all queues as per-CPU by default, while unbound
> workqueues must opt-in via WQ_UNBOUND.
> 
> This default is suboptimal: most workloads benefit from unbound queues,
> allowing the scheduler to place worker threads where they’re needed and
> reducing noise when CPUs are isolated.
> 
> This default is suboptimal: most workloads benefit from unbound queues,
> allowing the scheduler to place worker threads where they’re needed and
> reducing noise when CPUs are isolated.
> 
> This patch adds a new WQ_PERCPU flag to explicitly request the use of
> the per-CPU behavior. Both flags coexist for one release cycle to allow
> callers to transition their calls.
> 
> Once migration is complete, WQ_UNBOUND can be removed and unbound will
> become the implicit default.
> 
> With the introduction of the WQ_PERCPU flag (equivalent to !WQ_UNBOUND),
> any alloc_workqueue() caller that doesn’t explicitly specify WQ_UNBOUND
> must now use WQ_PERCPU.
> 
> All existing users have been updated accordingly.
> 
> Suggested-by: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>
> Signed-off-by: Marco Crivellari <marco.crivellari@suse.com>
> ---
>  crypto/cryptd.c | 3 ++-
>  1 file changed, 2 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)

Patch applied.  Thanks.
-- 
Email: Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>
Home Page: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/
PGP Key: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/pubkey.txt

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