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From: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@ziepe.ca>
To: Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>
Cc: Mostafa Saleh <smostafa@google.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, kvmarm@lists.linux.dev,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, iommu@lists.linux.dev,
	maz@kernel.org, oliver.upton@linux.dev, joey.gouly@arm.com,
	suzuki.poulose@arm.com, yuzenghui@huawei.com,
	catalin.marinas@arm.com, robin.murphy@arm.com,
	jean-philippe@linaro.org, qperret@google.com, tabba@google.com,
	mark.rutland@arm.com, praan@google.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 22/28] iommu/arm-smmu-v3-kvm: Emulate CMDQ for host
Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2025 11:36:50 -0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20250918143650.GQ1326709@ziepe.ca> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aMveas3QWXUk6xpm@willie-the-truck>

On Thu, Sep 18, 2025 at 11:26:50AM +0100, Will Deacon wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 17, 2025 at 12:59:31PM -0300, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> > On Wed, Sep 17, 2025 at 04:25:35PM +0100, Will Deacon wrote:
> > 
> > > Ah right, so the driver would unnecessarily issue CMOs for the structures
> > > that are just shared with the hypervisor. At least it's _functional_ that
> > > way, but I'm sure people will complain!
> > 
> > Yes, functional, why would anyone complain? STE and CD manipulation is
> > not fast path for anything?
> 
> Won't it also apply to cmdq insertion?

Oh, changing CMDQ wasn't on my mind..

Yeah, OK I don't know what the performance delta would be like there.

However, to get peak performance out of pkvm we really do want the
SMMU driver to write CMDQ as cachable, pkvm to read it as cachable and
then copy it to a non-cachable HW queue.

Otherwise pkvm will be issuing CMOs on fast paths :\

If we convert the slow speed stuff, STE, CD, Fault to do CMOs then we
could make a fairly small change for pkvm mode to force the guest CMDQ
to be cachable without CMO. Some special feature triggered by pkvm
detection during probe.

Jason

  reply	other threads:[~2025-09-18 14:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 82+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-08-19 21:51 [PATCH v4 00/28] KVM: arm64: SMMUv3 driver for pKVM (trap and emulate) Mostafa Saleh
2025-08-19 21:51 ` [PATCH v4 01/28] KVM: arm64: Add a new function to donate memory with prot Mostafa Saleh
2025-09-09 13:46   ` Will Deacon
2025-09-14 19:23     ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2025-09-16 11:58       ` Mostafa Saleh
2025-09-16 11:56     ` Mostafa Saleh
2025-08-19 21:51 ` [PATCH v4 02/28] KVM: arm64: Donate MMIO to the hypervisor Mostafa Saleh
2025-09-09 14:12   ` Will Deacon
2025-09-16 13:27     ` Mostafa Saleh
2025-09-26 14:33       ` Will Deacon
2025-09-29 10:57         ` Mostafa Saleh
2025-09-14 20:41   ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2025-09-16 13:43     ` Mostafa Saleh
2025-08-19 21:51 ` [PATCH v4 03/28] KVM: arm64: pkvm: Add pkvm_time_get() Mostafa Saleh
2025-09-09 14:16   ` Will Deacon
2025-09-09 15:56     ` Marc Zyngier
2025-09-15 11:10       ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2025-09-16 14:04       ` Mostafa Saleh
2025-08-19 21:51 ` [PATCH v4 04/28] iommu/io-pgtable-arm: Move selftests to a separate file Mostafa Saleh
2025-09-15 14:37   ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2025-09-16 14:07     ` Mostafa Saleh
2025-09-15 16:45   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-09-16 14:09     ` Mostafa Saleh
2025-08-19 21:51 ` [PATCH v4 05/28] iommu/io-pgtable-arm: Factor kernel specific code out Mostafa Saleh
2025-08-19 21:51 ` [PATCH v4 06/28] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Split code with hyp Mostafa Saleh
2025-09-09 14:23   ` Will Deacon
2025-09-16 14:10     ` Mostafa Saleh
2025-08-19 21:51 ` [PATCH v4 07/28] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Move TLB range invalidation into a macro Mostafa Saleh
2025-09-09 14:25   ` Will Deacon
2025-08-19 21:51 ` [PATCH v4 08/28] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Move IDR parsing to common functions Mostafa Saleh
2025-08-19 21:51 ` [PATCH v4 09/28] KVM: arm64: iommu: Introduce IOMMU driver infrastructure Mostafa Saleh
2025-08-19 21:51 ` [PATCH v4 10/28] KVM: arm64: iommu: Shadow host stage-2 page table Mostafa Saleh
2025-09-09 14:42   ` Will Deacon
2025-09-16 14:24     ` Mostafa Saleh
2025-09-26 14:42       ` Will Deacon
2025-09-29 11:01         ` Mostafa Saleh
2025-09-30 12:38           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-09-30 12:55             ` Mostafa Saleh
2025-08-19 21:51 ` [PATCH v4 11/28] KVM: arm64: iommu: Add memory pool Mostafa Saleh
2025-08-19 21:51 ` [PATCH v4 12/28] KVM: arm64: iommu: Support DABT for IOMMU Mostafa Saleh
2025-08-19 21:51 ` [PATCH v4 13/28] iommu/arm-smmu-v3-kvm: Add SMMUv3 driver Mostafa Saleh
2025-08-19 21:51 ` [PATCH v4 14/28] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Add KVM mode in the driver Mostafa Saleh
2025-09-12 13:52   ` Will Deacon
2025-09-16 14:30     ` Mostafa Saleh
2025-08-19 21:51 ` [PATCH v4 15/28] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Load the driver later in KVM mode Mostafa Saleh
2025-09-12 13:54   ` Will Deacon
2025-09-23 14:35     ` Mostafa Saleh
2025-09-23 17:38       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-09-29 11:10         ` Mostafa Saleh
2025-10-02 15:13           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-11-05 16:40             ` Mostafa Saleh
2025-11-05 17:12               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-11-06 11:06                 ` Mostafa Saleh
2025-11-06 13:23                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-11-06 16:54                     ` Mostafa Saleh
2025-11-06 17:16                       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-08-19 21:51 ` [PATCH v4 16/28] iommu/arm-smmu-v3-kvm: Create array for hyp SMMUv3 Mostafa Saleh
2025-09-09 18:30   ` Daniel Mentz
2025-09-16 14:35     ` Mostafa Saleh
2025-08-19 21:51 ` [PATCH v4 17/28] iommu/arm-smmu-v3-kvm: Take over SMMUs Mostafa Saleh
2025-08-19 21:51 ` [PATCH v4 18/28] iommu/arm-smmu-v3-kvm: Probe SMMU HW Mostafa Saleh
2025-08-19 21:51 ` [PATCH v4 19/28] iommu/arm-smmu-v3-kvm: Add MMIO emulation Mostafa Saleh
2025-08-19 21:51 ` [PATCH v4 20/28] iommu/arm-smmu-v3-kvm: Shadow the command queue Mostafa Saleh
2025-08-19 21:51 ` [PATCH v4 21/28] iommu/arm-smmu-v3-kvm: Add CMDQ functions Mostafa Saleh
2025-08-19 21:51 ` [PATCH v4 22/28] iommu/arm-smmu-v3-kvm: Emulate CMDQ for host Mostafa Saleh
2025-09-12 14:18   ` Will Deacon
2025-09-15 16:38     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-09-16 15:19       ` Mostafa Saleh
2025-09-17 12:36         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-09-17 15:01           ` Will Deacon
2025-09-17 15:16             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-09-17 15:25               ` Will Deacon
2025-09-17 15:59                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-09-18 10:26                   ` Will Deacon
2025-09-18 14:36                     ` Jason Gunthorpe [this message]
2025-09-16 14:50     ` Mostafa Saleh
2025-08-19 21:51 ` [PATCH v4 23/28] iommu/arm-smmu-v3-kvm: Shadow stream table Mostafa Saleh
2025-08-19 21:51 ` [PATCH v4 24/28] iommu/arm-smmu-v3-kvm: Shadow STEs Mostafa Saleh
2025-08-19 21:51 ` [PATCH v4 25/28] iommu/arm-smmu-v3-kvm: Emulate GBPA Mostafa Saleh
2025-08-19 21:51 ` [PATCH v4 26/28] iommu/arm-smmu-v3-kvm: Support io-pgtable Mostafa Saleh
2025-08-19 21:51 ` [PATCH v4 27/28] iommu/arm-smmu-v3-kvm: Shadow the CPU stage-2 page table Mostafa Saleh
2025-08-19 21:51 ` [PATCH v4 28/28] iommu/arm-smmu-v3-kvm: Enable nesting Mostafa Saleh

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